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Old 05-22-2013, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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We are suppose to take allegiance when we are born? I didn't even know how to speak English when I was born.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:12 PM
 
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For example in Mexico's constitution Chapter 2, Article 30, paragraph 2, states that you are a Mexican by birth if born on foreign territory, sons or daughters of Mexican parents born in national territory.
jus sanguinis. exactly the same as the US.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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You can't compare them to me. My parents were not illegal.

Apples & Oranges.
But that isn't what the US Constitution says. According to the US Constitution, people born in the US are citizens, regardless of their parents' immigration status. Here in the US, we don't punish children for their parents' illegal acts. If you think we should, try amending the Constitution.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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You can't compare them to me. My parents were not illegal.

Apples & Oranges.
Your parents and their parents are irrelevant.

Anchor babies do compare to you. As you and they are both natural-born citizens, born with all the rights and privileges accorded to citizens.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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The Mexican law is irrelevant. One of my friend's father came from Mexico and is legal citizen and had my friend a good deal later. That automatically makes him a U.S. citizen and a Mexican citizen. My fiancee's grandparents came from Italy to Canada as legal citizens and she is an Italian citizen because of the provisions made by the Italian government. This does not somehow make her not a Canadian citizen. That is irrelevant, obviously.

I did not take an oath of allegiance when I was born. Everybody has already covered this. I find it hard to believe a topic to this degree of ineptitude was made, but it should not surprise me from those who never stop looking under every sofa cushion for a legitimate reason for their preconceived notions. Here is a hint: You should believe things after you have a legitimate reason to believe them, and not believe something and attempt to find justification for it. This is a post-hoc analysis, and it isn't wise for you to do. You will never find something to justify what you're saying if your premise is flimsy. Please stop.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:25 PM
 
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And citizenship by birthright does not require both parents to be citizens.

The premise of this topic is just plain idiotic.
Anchors are babies of illegals unlawfully present. As an example I presented earlier. Mexico's constitution claims them as Mexicans.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Here's a link to the Constitution of the United States. The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net Let me suggest, OP, that you go read the 14th Amendment, which starts out: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

You'll notice that it says absolutely nothing about a citizen's parents. It didn't take a Supreme Court ruling to make that the law of the land. It says so in plain English. It happened when the 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868. That was 145 years ago.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:28 PM
 
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Your parents and their parents are irrelevant.

Anchor babies do compare to you. As you and they are both natural-born citizens, born with all the rights and privileges accorded to citizens.
Does not.

My parents are American. Illegal aliens are not.

These children are nationals and citizens of another country.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Does not.

My parents are American. Illegal aliens are not.

These children are nationals and citizens of another country.
You're allowed to hold dual citizenship. Sorry to burst your bubble...
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:30 PM
 
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Here's a link to the Constitution of the United States. The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net Let me suggest, OP, that you go read the 14th Amendment, which starts out: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

You'll notice that it says absolutely nothing about a citizen's parents. It didn't take a Supreme Court ruling to make that the law of the land. It says so in plain English. It happened when the 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868. That was 145 years ago.
^^^^^ According to the framers of our constitution.
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