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Why do some people have the view that women have less value depending on how many men they sleep with/if they sell their bodies stripping/if they walk around in skimpy clothing/if they're asexual/even if they've been raped?
Why do some people think that sex crimes are ever the victim's fault in any way whatsoever?
These people are disrespecting women. How do we get rid of them? Would re-education camps with electric shocks for immoral views work
If a person is not attracted to a woman who has been with 400 dudes, that's fine and it makes sense...or if she's been having an abortion a day, or fifty kids, I would say it's acceptable to view her as a lesser person...
but the only business a woman's sexuality is, is the woman's and those who care about her or want to get into a relationship with her.
The only reason someone should ever be angered at a woman who appears "slutty" is out of concern for her safety and happiness.
Note that responses from people with inferior moralities shall be insulted, vigorously
How should society best go about ridding itself of the idea that there are certain women with less value than other women, depending on their level of promiscuity?
These people may encourage the view that rape/sexual assault is acceptable in certain instances. These people may be pressuring women not to aggressively report men who have attacked them, by encouraging the view that they're worth less.
Far too many sex crimes happen to women. We must destroy views that encourage such things. How best would one go about doing that?
You just contradicted yourself in your first post.
I never implied that all women are worthy of respect.
Oh, okay. Maybe I misunderstood you.
It's not clear whether you're suggesting all women are worthy of respect, or that we should simply judge promiscuous women less harshly, or that we should not judge promiscuous women at all, or that we should not judge anyone at all... or what.
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It just makes no sense to disrespect women who have done nothing wrong to others...such as potentially promiscuous women, unless it is out of some honest concern for them. If people do things that harm no one but themselves, anyone who disrespects them for it, who does not do it out of concern for that person, seems to be behaving with a degree of narcissism, to me.
This is surprising? Humans are raging narcissists.
Anyway, you don't seem to see the shades of gray when it comes to 'harm'. If a 13 year old girl calls another 13 year old girl a "sl*t" behind her back , is that harm, or not?
What if she just thinks, "That girl is a sl*t", and doesn't act on it or say it? Is that harmful?
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Are you someone whose view I desire destroyed? Someone who believes people who do not harm others should be thought poorer of by people not seeking to assist them?
Well I don't take the view that thinking less of someone is synonymous with 'harming them.'
I generally take the view that humans are going to judge one another, and as long as we don't act on it then it isn't harm.
I also take the view that we don't need a reason to judge someone. It doesn't need to be in response to anything.
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You may be why I thought making this post was a good idea...to root you out and get you to see that some people consider your thought process morally wrong.
You haven't demonstrated an understanding of my thought process, yet.
Why do some people have the view that women have less value depending on how many men they sleep with/if they sell their bodies stripping/if they walk around in skimpy clothing/if they're asexual/even if they've been raped?
Why do some people think that sex crimes are ever the victim's fault in any way whatsoever?
These people are disrespecting women. How do we get rid of them? Would re-education camps with electric shocks for immoral views work
If a person is not attracted to a woman who has been with 400 dudes, that's fine and it makes sense...or if she's been having an abortion a day, or fifty kids, I would say it's acceptable to view her as a lesser person...
but the only business a woman's sexuality is, is the woman's and those who care about her or want to get into a relationship with her.
The only reason someone should ever be angered at a woman who appears "slutty" is out of concern for her safety and happiness.
Note that responses from people with inferior moralities shall be insulted, vigorously
How should society best go about ridding itself of the idea that there are certain women with less value than other women, depending on their level of promiscuity?
These people may encourage the view that rape/sexual assault is acceptable in certain instances. These people may be pressuring women not to aggressively report men who have attacked them, by encouraging the view that they're worth less.
Far too many sex crimes happen to women. We must destroy views that encourage such things. How best would one go about doing that?
And how about Women who falsely accuse men of sex crimes, what should happen to the women then?
The problem is we over respect promiscuous men. Watch a Dos Eques (?) beer add for a good example.
They do seem to receive a lot of hero worship.
I've talked to promiscuous men who say there's still too much hatred of their lifestyle.
It seems to be mostly women who hate them, unless they're with them, and mostly men who give them hero worship.
Perhaps some women might do well to despise them less, so long as they are honest about their intentions, whereas men could definitely give them less hero worship.
Sleeping with as many women as possible is fun, but it's not an activity worthy of hero worship.
You just contradicted yourself in your first post.
No I didn't.
This: Why do some people have the view that women have less value depending on how many men they sleep with/if they sell their bodies stripping/if they walk around in skimpy clothing/if they're asexual/even if they've been raped?
does not necessarily mean having fifty kids or regular abortions...although I should have written fifty fatherless kids.
Oh, okay. Maybe I misunderstood you.
It's not clear whether you're suggesting all women are worthy of respect, or that we should simply judge promiscuous women less harshly, or that we should not judge promiscuous women at all, or that we should not judge anyone at all... or what.
We should think about why we judge people harshly, and unless we care about the person, we should ignore their behavior unless they are harming others. That's my opinion. Constructive criticism is okay. Doing it for amusement is not.
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This is surprising? Humans are raging narcissists.
Anyway, you don't seem to see the shades of gray when it comes to 'harm'. If a 13 year old girl calls another 13 year old girl a "sl*t" behind her back , is that harm, or not?
What if she just thinks, "That girl is a sl*t", and doesn't act on it or say it? Is that harmful?
I would say that pretty much anytime anyone calls a 13 year old girl a s&ut, that's harmful.
If she thinks "That girl is a s&ut," that wouldn't result in any repercussions whatsoever, so it doesn't matter.
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Well I don't take the view that thinking less of someone is synonymous with 'harming them.'
I generally take the view that humans are going to judge one another, and as long as we don't act on it then it isn't harm.
You're looking to get rid of the double standard, and that's easier said than done.
Personally, I have found that the more secular a society is, the less it matters how many men a woman has slept with. Ditto for sex education. In places with a heavy religious influence, the term "****" is tossed about ubiquitously.
I remember watching a documentary called Let's Talk About Sex". They were asking young men in different countries what they thought of young women who carried condoms in their purses. In places like the Netherlands, secular with extensive sex ed, the men called these women smart. In places like the US, especially the further into the bible belt you went, the men were chanting "****! ****! Easy ****! I wouldn't date her! Not for long, anyway!"
And there you have it.
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