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What an idiotic thread. The worst of the problems in Europe over the last couple of years have been from the EU, pushed by Germany, trying to force austerity on people and it is destroying the EU. Austerity doesn't work, and the underpinnings of it have been shown to be false and fabricated.
Meanwhile the most socialist countries in Europe - Sweeden, Norway, Finland, etc ... they are all doing just fine thank you very much. They have been virtually untouched by the economic crisis of the last few years, at least relative to the rest of the world.
What an idiotic thread. The worst of the problems in Europe over the last couple of years have been from the EU, pushed by Germany, trying to force austerity on people and it is destroying the EU. Austerity doesn't work, and the underpinnings of it have been shown to be false and fabricated.
Meanwhile the most socialist countries in Europe - Sweeden, Norway, Finland, etc ... they are all doing just fine thank you very much. They have been virtually untouched by the economic crisis of the last few years, at least relative to the rest of the world.
I think it is largely to do with exposure to the Anglo-Saxon housing bubble. Britons were not flipping homes in the Nordic countries or Germany. All the countries they touched (Ireland, Spain, Portugal), were hammered. So, socialism has nothing to do with this. Ireland, as I recall, is the least socialist country in Europe, but was nuked by the housing boom and bust just the same.
The three definitions of socialism are as follows:
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Now, nothing in Obama's record indicates that he favors either "the government ownership of the means of production and the distribution of goods" or the abolition of private property. So, tell me, why do you think that Obama is a socialist?
I think it is largely to do with exposure to the Anglo-Saxon housing bubble. Britons were not flipping homes in the Nordic countries or Germany. All the countries they touched (Ireland, Spain, Portugal), were hammered. So, socialism has nothing to do with this. Ireland, as I recall, is the least socialist country in Europe, but was nuked by the housing boom and bust just the same.
The mask is trolling as usual.
Don't forget pains in Greece or Italy either though. Austerity has wrecked allmighty havock with the economies of the EU.
* projected (and 2013 fiscal year is already half over)
Ken
Uh... it's easier to come down from insane highs. The cost of government never goes down, except when you set the bar so high it has to. Keep in mind Obama shared 2009. Let me know when it goes down to $458B again. That's when you'll have a solid point.
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Martin Bashir today went on a tirade about how the situation in Europe was brought on by austerity. He proceeded to build a bridge between Republicans and Europe. <<< That's the setup
What he conveniently left out is that massively generous retirement benefits, 1 month paid vacations, and an uber-welfare state forced posterity measures in the first place. They spent themselves into unsustainable debt the socialist way.
How does MSNBC manage to find so many talking donkeys?
I'll take Kudlow over any of them!
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