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Old 06-12-2013, 07:37 PM
 
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Welcome to the world of military command, buddy.

This is where you estimate the positive effect you think your forces may have in a given mission vs. the risk of losing them while achieving nothing of significance vs. the risk of suddenly needing them in their current mission in Tripoli. And you do it with ridiculously incomplete information, in real time, and with the full knowledge that good guys stand to lose their lives no matter what you choose. Oh, and in this incident, you do know that here are ugly, angry crowds outside 2/3rds of the US embassies in the Middle East. That the Benghazi safehouse has fallen to 100+ bad guys. And the force you have at your disposal consists of 4 persons.

Suppose they'd flown to Benina airport, commandeered a vehicle somehow in the middle of the night for the 12-mile drive to Benghazi proper, and found that an organization that's well-organized enough to launch a company-size attack on what was considered a secret facility also had the smarts to put up a roadblock across the likely reinforcement routes? Fox News would have had orgasms crowing about the military ineptness.

As it happens, Gates said it - "sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces".
Great post that lays out exactly what military command was dealing with in real time as events unfolded, and why, no matter how much the right wants it to be so, there simply is no scandal here.

Time for the right wingers to go back to turning over rocks in their never-ending search for the next non-scandal.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Ben Ghazi sounds like a cool foreign name to the turds. They probably have no idea where it is, and if Jay Leno did a walk about asking, they probably would say, don't know the dude man... Or a friend of Obama...


I know where it is!

It's right in the middle of the country Cameron and Sarkozy told Obama to go to war with to secure oil and natural gas for Europe...oops!...I mean "humanitarian mission".
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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I know of one media station that is ignoring it...
Well that would explain why the liberals think it's all over and much ado about nothing. Of course they spin it as "see, there's nothing there" and not "see, they don't want to smear the administration".
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Well that would explain why the liberals think it's all over and much ado about nothing. Of course they spin it as "see, there's nothing there" and not "see, they don't want to smear the administration".
What have you learned from watching the hearings?
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Hmmm, 108 mins - 17 mins = 91 mins of fabrication, lies and drivel.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:20 PM
 
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Yes, I did.
"They were told that the mission they were asked to perform was not in Benghazi, but was at Tripoli airport."

They were told they were not going to Benghazi. And then the administration tried to blame it all on a YouTube video.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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"They were told that the mission they were asked to perform was not in Benghazi, but was at Tripoli airport."

They were told they were not going to Benghazi. And then the administration tried to blame it all on a YouTube video.
Again:
Who testified that help was called for and denied? Who exactly denied this help according to that testimony?
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:53 PM
 
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Again:
Who testified that help was called for and denied? Who exactly denied this help according to that testimony?
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:18 PM
 
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Hmmm, 108 mins - 17 mins = 91 mins of fabrication, lies and drivel.
Someone is accountable who would you suggest that is?
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:43 PM
 
Location: mancos
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Obama says it was a protest about a video,Hillary said it was a protest about a video,Biden says it was a protest about a video, and then they went to bed as Obama had to get up for a fund raiser in vegas the next day. lack of even the smallest amount of leadership in the gov and it's incompentence is disgusting and the lies must no longer be defended so they can stop
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