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You know what's funny? You actually think that the Republican party is for small government.
While others actually think it's for the little guy. When in power both parties are for the big corporations. When out, both claim to be for other things.
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Originally Posted by OhioRules
Today's liberals believe they have the freedom to raid the pockets of productive, working citizens, and keep them in poverty.
Fixed that for you.
Today's conservatives believe they have the right to raid the pockets of Americans and use those $$$ pursuing their delusional desire to remake the world in their image.
I don't think I know anyone who'd describe themselves as a "liberal." I think the RWNJs are a lot like the American Taliban, KKK, etc. ... in that they spend most of their waking hours worrying about conspiracies and 'end of the world' scenarios which don't exist. Most of us in the country probably describe ourselves as "moderate."
I describe myself as LIBERAL including my beliefs in the Individual Right to be armed to protect your personal Liberty and freedom from violent crime. I am strongly against any form of business market manipulation, patent abuse and effective monopoly by government protection and collusion. I believe in free markets that include individual people exercising their ability to use their Liberty to participate without restriction or collusion. For instance I do not believe our corporate Military Industrial Complex has the right, and should not have the Liberty, to force us into a Forever War for their own profit and our loss.
I am a LIBERAL because I believe in Individual Liberty not corporate collusion and control. This makes me a bit cross ways with the Democrats and completely opposed to the Republicans.
60's liberalism:
"A theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market. Intention to detach from the government and the establishment, become independent entrepreneurs dependent only upon ourselves for our survival. We rejected the established rules of society and encouraged individuality, freedom, and liberty. We found ways to support ourselves through our own ingenuity. We wanted no ties to the government or the established system at all.
I miss the 60's. At least the liberals of that decade were actually intelligent. We raged against the "machine" .....remember?
They still rage against the machine, but only when GOP is in powrer. And GOP rages against the machine, but only when Dems are in power. Sad, but true.
Evidently neither the OP nor the people passing the chain mail around have any respect for copyright laws.
And worth noting, it is these same people who try to assert that the GOP hasn't changed in 150 years, that the Republicans still have the exact same values, same political goals, unchanging since they elected Lincoln. But liberalism has radically changed in only a third of that time.
I don't really see much now different. I see the same whatever turns you on. The difference is that they how ignore lawsw when they see them as not wanted or just by actually using political influence to have state and local governments to do things like pass marijuana laws when its against federal law. Same with illegals in the country in which case the Federal followed the states in just ignoring or even assisting those who break the law. The rule of law is broken: IMO. It changes with whatever political power comes into power. We now see government ignoring supreme court rulings on reasonable searches. All abused on whatever one believes. There are methods of change that are legal but you have to get the overwhelming support or go to the courts.
Today's liberalism is a direct descendant of the 60's liberalism both Republican and Democratic Parties and both are the same political philosophies born of the Great Depression and populist movements of the era. There hasn't been a lot of change if you know the political history of American politics. What has changed is the bat****te crazies of the Right taking full control of the Republican Party that in the post New Deal world that had a grasp on reality.
Take for example Roe v Wade, of the seven Justices who ruled in favor of abortion only three were appointees of Democratic presidents. So-called Obamacare traces its origins to a 1989 proposal put forth by the conservative Heritage Foundation.
So who has changed based upon policy... it hasn't been the liberal side of the political spectrum.
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