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Old 06-17-2013, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by Sci Fi Fan View Post
Either your analytical skills are either clinically deficient, or you're one massive troll of divine proportions.




Dodging the question.

Should infertile, straight couples be allowed to marry?

Interracial marriage is an exception, not the norm. Stop saying stupid stuff.
Yes and marriage as evolved accommodates interracial marriages it does not accommodate same sex marriage. You can't prevent infertile couples from marrying because by practice they very well may not know they're infertile.

However it should be noted that infertility was grounds for divorce in many cultures. Sorry try as you might you cannot devoid the importance of children and the continuation of family from the institution of marriage.

 
Old 06-17-2013, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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It's not up to them. They should report the news. Gay marriage is banned in the majority of states and is only supported by maybe half of Americans. The media is picking sides.
No, idiots are picking sides by saying stupid stuff like "The media is pushing the Gay Agenda".

The media is just reporting the news.

And no matter how much cavemen want to whine and cry, most of hte news surrounding homosexuals /support/ homosexuals.

It's time to start crawling out of your caves and realising that yes, fire DOES exist, and there's more to life than bonking females on the head when you want to copulate with them.
 
Old 06-17-2013, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Yes and marriage as evolved accommodates interracial marriages it does not accommodate same sex marriage. You can't prevent infertile couples from marrying because by practice they very well may not know they're infertile.

However it should be noted that infertility was grounds for divorce in many cultures. Sorry try as you might you cannot devoid the importance of children and the continuation of family from the institution of marriage.
You can, however, make the factual argument that the ability to procreate is not relevant to the legal recognition of marriage as the ability to crap out babies is not part of the marriage law at all.
 
Old 06-17-2013, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Yet here you are why is being against the homosexual agenda gay bashing? Why is being against the moral degredation of the USA gay bashing?

I choose to see myself as defending the customs of maintaining a strong, vibrant country.
Do you also defend slavery? It was a custom in this country.
 
Old 06-17-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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Yes and marriage as evolved accommodates interracial marriages it does not accommodate same sex marriage. You can't prevent infertile couples from marrying because by practice they very well may not know they're infertile.
Still dodging the question. What if infertile couples know they are infertile? Should they be allowed to marry?

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However it should be noted that infertility was grounds for divorce in many cultures. Sorry try as you might you cannot devoid the importance of children and the continuation of family from the institution of marriage.
Why must it be natural children? We hardly have an underpopulation crisis in modern, first world countries.

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Also, would you support legislation to allow husbands to rape their wives, since this was criminalized against the traditional function of marriage, in which the man would literally own his wife?
 
Old 06-17-2013, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Yes and marriage as evolved accommodates interracial marriages it does not accommodate same sex marriage. You can't prevent infertile couples from marrying because by practice they very well may not know they're infertile.

However it should be noted that infertility was grounds for divorce in many cultures. Sorry try as you might you cannot devoid the importance of children and the continuation of family from the institution of marriage.
Actually in several states it HAS evolved to accommodate SSM.
Infertility is not grounds for divorce in our CURRENT culture.

If you want to go with what was legal in other cultures, then polygamy, underage marriages, and and women as property of their husbands should still be legal right?
 
Old 06-17-2013, 03:18 PM
 
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EdwardA:

  • Slavery is a tradition older than marriage. Why do you oppose it?
  • Marital rape has been accepted across virtually all cultures throughout history until very recently. Why do you oppose it?
  • That the Earth is at the center of the universe had been accepted across virtually all cultures throughout history until Copernicus. Why do you oppose it?
 
Old 06-17-2013, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Actually in several states it HAS evolved to accommodate SSM.
Infertility is not grounds for divorce in our CURRENT culture.

If you want to go with what was legal in other cultures, then polygamy, underage marriages, and and women as property of their husbands should still be legal right?
Of course it is ever heard of no fault divorce?
 
Old 06-17-2013, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Originally Posted by EdwardA


Yes and marriage as evolved accommodates
interracial marriages it does not accommodate same sex marriage. You can't
prevent infertile couples from marrying because by practice they very well may
not know they're infertile.
Yes, marriage evolves.
You can clutch your pearls and smelling salts as you fall back onto your fainting couch, but MARRIAGE EVOLVES.
SSM will be the law of the land whether you like it or not.
 
Old 06-17-2013, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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EdwardA:

  • Slavery is a tradition older than marriage. Why do you oppose it?
  • Marital rape has been accepted across virtually all cultures throughout history until very recently. Why do you oppose it?
  • That the Earth is at the center of the universe had been accepted across virtually all cultures throughout history until Copernicus. Why do you oppose it?
When folks have to bring in slavery then you know they've lost the debate.
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