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Old 06-25-2013, 09:39 AM
 
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College is worth it if it's STEM and you network.

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Old 06-25-2013, 09:42 AM
 
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And the batchelors is the new hs diploma.

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Old 06-25-2013, 10:15 AM
 
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Exactly, who do you think is going to have better job prospects, a engineer or a english lit major? Somebody with a law degree or somebody with a degree in social work?

I would not advise anyone to get a law degree, unless they get into a T-14 school or receive substantial scholarships which cover the cost of tuition. There are simply not enough law jobs, therefore the social work degree will probably be far more useful, since it's easier for a social worker to get a job in his/her field at a clinic or start their own counseling business.
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Old 06-25-2013, 10:22 AM
 
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College is certainly worth attending. One doesn't have to major in STEM to be successful. The student simply has to have a passion for their course of study and be extremely versatile.

The real key is keeping the student loan debt low. Students should not borrow excessive amounts of money to attend college. It's far better to attend a Jr. college for two years and later transfer to a state school, for the remaining two years, in lieu of paying excessive tuition to attend a private school, that offers little to no scholarship money.
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Old 06-25-2013, 10:28 AM
 
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College is overrated and significantly overpriced. If you don't have the ability to self teach and self educate yourself, you aren't going to be successful no matter what. It's always fun learning business from a university professor who's never even owned a business!
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Old 06-25-2013, 10:31 AM
 
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College has become nothing more than a way for the government and big banks to sodomize young adults and their families. No matter how many kids get out of college with debt and no job prospects, all you see is more advertisements for college and those rink-a-dink little money-maker schools that are nothing more than glamorized scam-houses.
There are a lot of "schools" which prey on poor people who want to better themselves. Many of these "technical" schools are in it for government grant and Federal loan money and couldn't care less if they actually teach the students anything. 60 Minutes did an expose of one, a chain that operated in poor areas all over the country, these kids end up with a "certificate" that's close to worthless, and $30,000 in student loans.

Very little is done to these scam artists that take advantage of someone trying to make a better life and use our tax money to do so. Unfortunately, it seems politicians see the solution as cutting loan programs rather than going after the predatory businesses that are doing this.
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Old 06-25-2013, 10:34 AM
 
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That is why people stay at the bottom.

You can not learn from failure if you blame your failures on everyone else. You are then doomed to repeat your failures.

By the way, take a look at history. It is when you begin to mandate equality of life that you create the exact thing you claim exists now.
What the f are you talking about. No that is not why people stay at the bottom. That is just your ignorant make believe reason that is devoid of any statistical validation by reality.
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Old 06-25-2013, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Only morons believe that. An education of some kind, hard work and determination is the ticket to the American Dream.

I guess it's to be expected from the generation that got a trophy for just showing up. Hard lesson to learn, that you have to accomplish something to get that reward in the real world.
College isn't about learning, it is about making connections with the people who will help you on your professional journey and get to the next level. Learning is secondary.

We encourage the poor kids (high achieving ones) to go to the community colleges etc and they don't have the opportunity to build the connections you need to move up the ladder. A poorer kid would be well served to go to a better college for networking. Creates a never ending cycle.


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Old 06-25-2013, 10:49 AM
 
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College isn't about learning, it is about making connections with the people who will help you on your professional journey and get to the next level. Learning is secondary.

We encourage the poor kids (high achieving ones) to go to the community colleges etc and they don't have the opportunity to build the connections you need to move up the ladder. A poorer kid would be well served to go to a better college for networking. Creates a never ending cycle.


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I agree that networking is an important element of the college experience, but the problem is, many poor children who attend private universities often end up owing substantial amounts of money to the federal government and Sallie Mae.

But obviously, if the poor/low income student can get into an ivy or an elite school, they should certainly go, because they won't incur any substantial debt (due to need blind admission policies). If however, they simply get into Boston University (for example), without any scholarship, they are better off attending a cheap state school or a city college and partaking in various internships each year, to ensure exposure to different work environments and people.
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Old 06-25-2013, 10:50 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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College is overrated and significantly overpriced. If you don't have the ability to self teach and self educate yourself, you aren't going to be successful no matter what. It's always fun learning business from a university professor who's never even owned a business!
College is going to teach you a lot more than how to run a business.

I do have some 'know it all' friends - none of whom ever went to college. It's weird how that works.

Those that think they know the most - usually don't.
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