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Old 07-01-2013, 11:52 AM
 
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Maybe not more guilty, but it is a little strange. It's like he's playing cop or fantasizing about being one. Most civilians don't think with those terms, therefore they wouldn't use them outloud. This is what makes me think that there is a possibility that he will do this again if he is not convicted. He seems to think it's his duty to protect and serve as neighborhood watch, rather than to watch and report.
"Fantasizing about being a cop" totally subjective.

Maybe he just hated seeing houses in his neighborhood being broken into...??

Does that seem more feasible? Or no, must we dig for the most Freudian explanation possible?

 
Old 07-01-2013, 11:52 AM
 
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Only they would know. If they were people of principle...they would skip a civil trial in the event GZ is acquitted. Let's see how that unfolds.
Florida Law prohibits civil action against Zimmerman if he is aquitted.
 
Old 07-01-2013, 11:55 AM
 
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Prosecution might have made a mistake by having the officer read his written account of events. The jury just heard
GZ's testimony, now he doesn't have to take the stand for sure.
There isn't anyway the report wasn't going to be entered into evidence so it certainly wasn't a mistake on the part of the prosecution.

Zimmerman has never had to take the stand just to have his side(s) of the story entered into record.
 
Old 07-01-2013, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Although I was one of those who were originally outraged that Zimmerman had not been arrested for killing Trayvon the more I learn about the other side of the story and the irrefutable evidence I'm becoming more convinced that the Sanford PD did nothing wrong when they chose to release Zimmerman the night of the killing and not to prosecute him. This looks like clear self defense to me, Stand Your Ground laws or not.
Obviously Zimmerman did profile Martin and did follow him. I can't see how that would make the shooting any less self defense though. It's really just a huge tragedy for everyone involved.
 
Old 07-01-2013, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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There was NO WAY, in Zimmerman's limited mental capability, that he would have any reason to believe a gunshot wound to a person's heart would result in a death.
So you are saying GZ got down and did a compete medical examination on TM, so he was aware where the bullet travels? I didn't realize...
 
Old 07-01-2013, 11:57 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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"Fantasizing about being a cop" totally subjective.

Maybe he just hated seeing houses in his neighborhood being broken into...??

Does that seem more feasible? Or no, must we dig for the most Freudian explanation possible?
Oh, was a house being broken into at the time he pulled the trigger?
 
Old 07-01-2013, 11:59 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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They are defending him on the basis of SYG... nothing needs to be said. It is understood that this is the defacto argument.

No, they are claiming self-defense.

As I posted earlier, if zimmerman wanted to use SYG as a defense, the burden of proof would be ON HIM.

His lawyers obviously didn't feel very confident about that.
 
Old 07-01-2013, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I think most self appointed Vigilantes school themselves on "official" police vernacular. You know, must complete the image and all.
 
Old 07-01-2013, 12:03 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Witness just stated that GZ didn't know the name of "the victim" and that he didn't even know he was dead at the time he wrote the statement.
Well, there's another lie of zimmerman's.

He took great pains to make sure his hand was not going to be in the way when he shot Trayvon. Maybe that was the same hand that was holding onto Trayvon to make sure he couldn't get away? The way he described it, he had all the time in the world to make the perfect shot.
 
Old 07-01-2013, 12:05 PM
 
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"Fantasizing about being a cop" totally subjective.

Maybe he just hated seeing houses in his neighborhood being broken into...??

Does that seem more feasible? Or no, must we dig for the most Freudian explanation possible?
Maybe, and while you're telling me what might have been on George Zimmerman's mind, be sure to tell the Zimmerman supporters who still think Trayvon was casing houses, based on his school suspension that MAYBE he was just walking back from 7-11 talking on the phone, minding his own business. Does that seem more feasible?
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