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The latest witness and line of questioning brings out one of the first real discrepencies in Zs statement. Z said that AFTER he shot, he rolled M over and spread his hands. OK, that could be possible. But given that he was armed, that would mean that he either had his gun still in his hand, or else had holstered it. Doesn't make sense to be handling an attackers hands with a gun in your own hand right by your attackers hands. Would make it too easy for him to take. And he also stated that he didn't holster his firearm until he saw either the approaching officer, or at least his flashlight.
You haven't seen the hundreds pf posts about gz stalking his prey.
Many of the same people who persist in saying gz 'onfronted' tm.
I'm sure I've used the word "stalk" and I do believe GZ confronted TM, but I don't think he started following him with the intent to kill him. I believe he just wanted to catch him. He wanted to be a hero - catch the bad guy. The thing is, Trayvon Martin was doing nothing wrong.
The latest witness and line of questioning brings out one of the first real discrepencies in Zs statement. Z said that AFTER he shot, he rolled M over and spread his hands. OK, that could be possible. But given that he was armed, that would mean that he either had his gun still in his hand, or else had holstered it. Doesn't make sense to be handling an attackers hands with a gun in your own hand right by your attackers hands. Would make it too easy for him to take. And he also stated that he didn't holster his firearm until he saw either the approaching officer, or at least his flashlight.
Exactly and at that time he didn't know that Martin was dead (per GZ) so why would he holster his gun?
Yeah, but the neighbor testified that the "lighter skinned guy" was on bottom and there were "downward striking motions" and GZ had lacerations on his head as well as swelling. Any law school graduates can paint the rest of the picture for a jury. I'm more interested in what the ME is going to say. They should be able to tell if the gun was fired at point blank range from the ground or standing up from a few feet away like some posters claim.
When they get to the FDLE ballistics lady, her report said it was a 'contact shot.' The ME said 'intermediate range'; maybe he'll be more precise in court. Anyone still hoping the shot was from feet away is engaged in wishful thinking.
I'm sure I've used the word "stalk" and I do believe GZ confronted TM, but I don't think he started following him with the intent to kill him. I believe he just wanted to catch him. He wanted to be a hero - catch the bad guy. The thing is, Trayvon Martin was doing nothing wrong.
Who believes that he wanted to kill Trayvon Martin from the time he got out if the car? I certainly don't think he started out with that intent, but he had no business following or confronting him.
He obviously believed he had "license" to follow and confront.
I'm sure I've used the word "stalk" and I do believe GZ confronted TM, but I don't think he started following him with the intent to kill him. I believe he just wanted to catch him. He wanted to be a hero - catch the bad guy. The thing is, Trayvon Martin was doing nothing wrong.
Fine, I'm not going to look for the many posts that say it was murder 1, that gz set out to kill one of those fap's who always get away.
The latest witness and line of questioning brings out one of the first real discrepencies in Zs statement. Z said that AFTER he shot, he rolled M over and spread his hands. OK, that could be possible. But given that he was armed, that would mean that he either had his gun still in his hand, or else had holstered it. Doesn't make sense to be handling an attackers hands with a gun in your own hand right by your attackers hands. Would make it too easy for him to take. And he also stated that he didn't holster his firearm until he saw either the approaching officer, or at least his flashlight.
Does this bug anyone else because it sure bugs me. Why would you touch the body of the guy you shot unless you were going to perform some tyope of CPR. GZ claims to not have known that TM was dead, but yet we know that he did not attempt to examine and revive him...so why did he touch him? I don't buy his checking for a brick used as a weapon BS. You are the one armed. You back away with your eyes on the guy on the ground until police arrive. I have been chalking most of his action up to stupidity, but I cannot imagine this level of it. Neighborhood Watch Guy??? I would not trust him to mow a lawn.
Seems plausible that gz wanted to reestablish a visual on tm so that he could tell the police that were on the way exactly where tm was. Thats why he asked dispatch to have police call him when they arrive. If tm would have just kept going, gz would have never seen him again.
Does this bug anyone else because it sure bugs me. Why would you touch the body of the guy you shot unless you were going to perform some tyope of CPR. GZ claims to not have known that TM was dead, but yet we know that he did not attempt to examine and revive him...so why did he touch him? I don't buy his checking for a brick used as a weapon BS. You are the one armed. You back away with your eyes on the guy on the ground until police arrive. I have been chalking most of his action up to stupidity, but I cannot imagine this level of it. Neighborhood Watch Guy??? I would not trust him to mow a lawn.
I never understood that either. He knew he had the gun and if Martin was still alive he would have also so why move him. Doesn't make sense to me.
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You haven't seen the hundreds pf posts about gz stalking his prey. 
