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If so, didn't you think it was very strange that porky never even looked at his wife, much less go to her and hug her or his own parents?
Then, after he was done congratulating his defense team, he walked out of the courtroom, right past his family.
Maybe he thinks he's a media sensation and will be looking for a prettier wife? After all, he's going to be a millionaire and his wife is going to be in jail.
Sick f... he is.
He was hungry, he headed straight for the snack machine.
go away troll you dont understand what your commenting on.
Yes b/c trolling is what I've been doing on this thread. I followed your discussion w/ Choclot, so yeah I do understand. But feel free to dodge.
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I have flip-flopped on my opinions on EXACTLY what happened between the the moment Zimmerman parked his truck and the gunshot. But, is there anything wrong with that? I don't know any better than you....or any 6 of those jurors.
Even if I explicitly said "Trayvon hit him first!" it doesn't change the bottom line here. But to clarify, I don't know who threw that first punch. All I know is TM one upped him...Whether Zimmerman panicked and was scared to death...only he knows.
Do I have reason to believe otherwise? No, I don't.
Well this puts you in the minority of GZ supporters. But you do have reason to believe otherwise. That doesn't mean that's what happened, but to think that you have no reason to believe otherwise means that you believe GZ story 100%. The only way that happens is if you his story conforms to a narrative you already have in your head. I don't think that's the case w/ you, even if you accept the verdict of the trial.
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The word racist itself does a whole lot of conflating...
I'm not intolerant of black people....and given the option to live separate from them, I wouldn't. I'd have to divorce my wife. It's up to you to use the word. But it would be much more honest to simply focus on exactly what you mean when you say it.
I know which is why I'm very careful about when I use it. To assume a Black guy you just start talking to is hung-up on racial identity and hates Whitey, despite the Black guy having said nothing of the sort, means you're bringing in your own negative view of Black people. Are you honestly going to say that I come across as some White-hating race-baiter?
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A direction he wasn't obligated to adhere to! Was it a stupid decision? Perhaps. It got his a** beat. But for somebody to say "Hey, he shouldn't have followed him....that will learn him"
How is that logic any different than saying Trayvon Martin should have kept his hands to himself?
If you want to argue "We don't know if Zimmerman didn't hit him first"
Well, we also don't know if Zimmerman stalked him, do we? We do know Martin could have went home and he didn't....so who hangs around WAITING to see if somebody is going to hit them?
Outside of the stalking part, yes all that is a grey area. And that's why the total acceptance of GZ account is mind-boggling. Most of GZ supporters on here have not been arguing the prosecution doesn't have a strong enough case. They've been arguing that GZ account is fact based on nothing but his word. By now, you already know how I feel about that.
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You see where this is going? So, do you agree that it is plausible that Martin wasn't racially profiled? Or do you want to be dishonest and say that Neighborhood Watches are just double speak for "Black Watch"??
Very few people are arguing about the profiling. If anything, it's the narrative that people created that's upsetting. The travesty is that after the facts came out, we learned that GZ assumptions were incorrect and it left an unarmed, innocent kid dead, and he got off w/o any punishment.
Do you see how this case boils down to Black teens are guilty until proven innocent? Zimmerman got off b/c the Black male's case wasn't strong enough to prove that he was innocent. Does that seem fair?
It's over people. The jury acquitted him. Move on with your lives.
Obama: 'Honor' Trayvon Martin by preventing future tragedies
"I know this case has elicited strong passions. And in the wake of the verdict, I know those passions may be running even higher. But we are a nation of laws, and a jury has spoken," Obama said in a written statement released by the White House.
Wow, one of the few, intelligent, responsible things hes ever said. Now maybe he'll keep out of things from now on when he doesnt have the facts.
If he was within his rights to follow Trayvon because he deemed him suspicious, than Trayvon was also within his rights to follow Zimmerman who he deemed suspicious. Don't you agree?
This is an excellent point.
I don't know about anyone else, but if someone is following me in the dark, I pretty much assume they are looking for trouble and probably mean to harm me. I don't assume they are a security guard or neighborhood watch captain.
Trayvon had every right to turn the tables and approach Zimmerman. We simply don't know who said what at that point, because there ARE NO WITNESSES other than the defendant. The only other person who was there is dead and in the ground. We have no idea who said what, and we have no idea who attacked who first or why.
Very few people are arguing about the profiling. If anything, it's the narrative that people created that's upsetting. The travesty is that after the facts came out, we learned that GZ assumptions were incorrect and it left an unarmed, innocent kid dead, and he got off w/o any punishment.
Do you see how this case boils down to Black teens are guilty until proven innocent? Zimmerman got off b/c the Black male's case wasn't strong enough to prove that he was innocent. Does that seem fair?
Well put.
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