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Old 08-07-2013, 07:11 AM
 
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That's pretty much the same thing you guys were saying in the run-up to the 2012 elections, and we all know how well that worked out for you. So just keep saying it. Over and over, while clicking the heels of your Ruby Slippers. See if that get's you back to Kansas.

The American electorate does not live inside the same right-wing echo chamber you do. Unlike the frothing nabobs at Free Republic or WND, they can tell the difference between a real scandal and an Issa witch hunt; between a recovering economy and an imploding one; between starting unpopular and unnecessary wars and ending them; between pragmatic collaboration and unreasoned obstructionism. They will make their decisions based on what their experience tells them... not what Mitch McConnel does.

The greatest weakness of the current American right is their inability to learn from their own mistakes.

Keep clicking those heels. There's no place like home. There's no place like home. There's no place like home.

It works in the movies.
It's kind of sad how much they root against America.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:13 AM
 
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I don't vote, but I can tell you a republican potus won't ever be elected again until the party changes their stance on social issues. Every day a few more boomer kick off, while a few more youngsters become legal voters.

prepare to be dissapointed again LOL/thread
More uninformed ranting? Americans care more about economic issues than social ones. Stop being such a typical left liberal gay marriage is not going to help the college student slaved to 6%+ student loans, gay marriage isn't going to put food on the table of some poor inner city family. When the GOP stops demonizing the poor and race bait Hispanics with their policies of punishing Mexican workers instead of going after employers who hire them in the first place, they'll continue to lose elections. Stop thinking inside the box. The problem with the GOP is that they are just stupid, not because they are liberal enough on social issues
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:20 AM
 
Location: North America
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Obama's presidency has been one of abject failure and economic misery, scarred by scandal. The only jobs the admin has "created" are part time jobs. Incomes, savings, and standard of living has fallen during the Obama administration, and we have three more years of this downtrend to endure.

2016- How are the libs going to promote four more years of liberal "rule" after this debacle? Will Americans be dumb enough to vote for another liberal and doom the nation to four more years of economic misery? Has the electorate become conditioned, via government treats for votes programs, to simply vote democrat, regardless of performance and personal voter economic misery?

Libs- If liberal policy is so great, why do we have greater numbers of unemployed (or underemployed), lower incomes, lower savings, and more people on food stamps? The only people that appear to have prospered under Obama is the "1%ers"- oddly the people that Obama purports to hate.

No.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:20 AM
 
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Obama's presidency has been one of abject failure and economic misery, scarred by scandal. The only jobs the admin has "created" are part time jobs. Incomes, savings, and standard of living has fallen during the Obama administration, and we have three more years of this downtrend to endure.

2016- How are the libs going to promote four more years of liberal "rule" after this debacle? Will Americans be dumb enough to vote for another liberal and doom the nation to four more years of economic misery? Has the electorate become conditioned, via government treats for votes programs, to simply vote democrat, regardless of performance and personal voter economic misery?

Libs- If liberal policy is so great, why do we have greater numbers of unemployed (or underemployed), lower incomes, lower savings, and more people on food stamps? The only people that appear to have prospered under Obama is the "1%ers"- oddly the people that Obama purports to hate.
guessed you missed the entire George W bush presidency and its absolute incompetence/malfeasants and the resulting mess Obama (or anyone who was elected) had to try and clean up

worst domestic attack on the continental U.S. (check)
worst economic disaster since the Great Depression (check)
worst response to a natural disaster (check)

anything I missed regarding W's reign?

and yes I would love for Hillary to be elected in 2016, because she will whole-heartedly embrace the fight with the radical Republican party that has evolved since the election of our first black president...
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:26 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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and yes I would love for Hillary to be elected in 2016, because she will whole-heartedly embrace the fight with the radical Republican party that has evolved since the election of our first black president...
Should be interesting, but uneventful. When cornered, her response of "What difference does it make?" will end the discussion, no matter what the subject matter is.
And why do you introduce the President's color into this? Too bad Hillary isn't black. You'd have a double dose of overjoy.

Like, really, what difference DOES it make that Obama is half black/half white. I really thought he had something solid to offer.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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These are the top rationalizations strident conservatives use to discredit liberal arguments they can't refute.

Just an observation.

ROFL

Feel free to quote some posts to back up your observation. I can show plenty to support mine.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Surely you jest.
Yes... the comparison of right-wingers to Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz was in jest. How wonderful that you were able to recognize that. Good for you.

The substance of the post however? Deadly serious.

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Liberals are dreamers and write their own scripts, just like in the movies. There's no reality in their world. They see and hear what they want to see and hear, and shut their minds to the possibility there could be truths they are ignoring. Maybe they're like innocent, unknowing kids and we should just read them a bedtime story and tell them to sleep tight. After all, that IS what the liberal media does.
Ignoring the Encyclopaedic volume of irony included in that assertion, you go chase that red herring all you want. It does nothing to counter the premise of my post.

The American electorate (especially the "Goldilock's fraction" that is neither too hot nor too cold) is what decides American elections. Not the fringe at either ideological extreme. And they do not buy the desperate right-wing effort to substitute scandal mongering for governance.

It is not "liberals" that you must convince if you want to return conservatism to respectability and success in national elections. It is the center.

And you are failing.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:33 AM
 
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Jim: Here's what we can expect....

Liberal/Obama Supporter Auto Response Protocol™

1. The source isn't valid
2. That's racist
3. GOP obstruction
4. But...but...but George W. Bush
5. Haters gonna hate
6. Repeat 1,2,3,4 and/or 5 as needed then insult the opposition for failing to support this great man, declare victory, and move on
Of course, this is from the handbook authored by LexusNexus

Except you can scratch #1 because he doesn't know anything about a valid source or source checking in the first place.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The country has a majority of uninformed, programmed, ignorant (pick the shoe that fits) a socialist leaning population. They look to see which side their bread is buttered and vote accordingly.
Spoken like the frustrated, politically irrelevant, supercilious (without good reason) ideologue you most certainly are.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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guessed you missed the entire George W bush presidency and its absolute incompetence/malfeasants and the resulting mess Obama (or anyone who was elected) had to try and clean up

worst domestic attack on the continental U.S. (check)
worst economic disaster since the Great Depression (check)
worst response to a natural disaster (check)

anything I missed regarding W's reign?

and yes I would love for Hillary to be elected in 2016, because she will whole-heartedly embrace the fight with the radical Republican party that has evolved since the election of our first black president...


worst domestic attack on the continental U.S. (check)- Explain how that was Bush's fault

worst economic disaster since the Great Depression (check)- Explain which Bush policies caused this

worst response to a natural disaster (check)- Does BP ring a bell? "Plug the damn hole!" Now THAT'S leadership.......
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