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Old 08-10-2013, 10:47 AM
 
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Obama is pushing his gay agenda on the world.. kind of creepy of him don't you think?
What's creepy is the right-wing obsession with gays and gay sex.
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Old 08-10-2013, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Florida
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What's creepy is the right-wing obsession with gays and gay sex.
Obama is bringing it up... do you have ears?
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Old 08-10-2013, 11:17 AM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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Obama is playing a game. If he is so insistent on parading gays around....why doesn't he give this same lecture to our middle eastern friends who are far more oppressive of gay and women's rights?
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Old 08-10-2013, 11:24 AM
 
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Obama is playing a game. If he is so insistent on parading gays around....why doesn't he give this same lecture to our middle eastern friends who are far more oppressive of gay and women's rights?
Because it's lip service and he knows it won't fly in other places....but that's politics, you have to pick your shots.

In fairness however, Russia is still very oppressive so all-in-all it's actually nice to hear Obama take a shot at Russia who has a history of singling out those that are "different" for "re-education".

Seriously people, Obama is calling out Russia over a human rights issue. How is this bad?

Some of you might not like gays, might not like gay marriage or whatever but sweet baby J....you think Russia's treatment of gays is appropriate?
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Old 08-10-2013, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Obama is bringing it up... do you have ears?
And Obama's the boss of you? Just because he talks about it, you have to go on endlessly about it?

Obama makes you praise Muslims for their high moral standards?

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Muslims hate the USA because of our low moral standards. Thank the liberals as they further corrupt morality as they progress into the dark ages of barbarism and their freedom from conscience , God or any standard of morality.
Obama makes you study what constitutes "gay identity"?

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the gays take on a complete gay identity.. weird.. sexual deviant behavior they define themselves completely.
Obama makes you read about his supposed ex-lovers?

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Do some reading on the net.. two alleged gay lovers of Obama died in 2007. Obama is really pushing the gay agenda now.. never saw a president so fired up about gayness before..
Obama makes you support Russian legislation against gays, legislation that could affect our citizens while there for the Olympics?

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Putin has legislation against gays now in Russia and Obama is pushing gay marriage , and even thinking about boycotting the Olympics.. on a gay reason..going too far for a straight pres.
Obama makes you do all this, right? Obama pushes you around so that you just have to think and talk about gays ad nauseum. You have no choice because you are just helpless against Obama.

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Old 08-10-2013, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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Obama is pushing his gay agenda on the world...
The "gay agenda" of course, being equality and not encountering bigotry and discrimination. How shocking.
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Old 08-10-2013, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Obama is playing a game. If he is so insistent on parading gays around....why doesn't he give this same lecture to our middle eastern friends who are far more oppressive of gay and women's rights?
It is called being a hypocrite and a chameleon. Obama is not consistent. He plays everyone including the democratic party. It is a power party and no one cares about the american people . The white house engages with their power only and turns one way and another .

Putin , if he was a middle eastern leader would hear nothing about the gay agenda. Obama's roots favor the muslims.His lack of action on the terrorists tells the story.

Obama will be a Christian , or Muslim depending what the issues are.. it is called manipulation and the democrats just push it away but this president doesn't add up to any kind of character .. character is to stand with integrity and the people are able to read. Obama is none of that.. he has too much baggage or bias to really be fair to the American people. Obama is not trustworthy at all. He will turn on his own for more power.. that is what a dictator does in a very manipulative way.

Obama's personal experiences dictate what he does and he has taken on real baggage in his life.. Obama is not well adjusted to stand balanced for all.
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Old 08-10-2013, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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It is called being a hypocrite and a chameleon. Obama is not consistent. He plays everyone including the democratic party. It is a power party and no one cares about the american people.
Of course, you could insert the name and party affiliation of ANY high-level national politician in this statement and it would be 100% equally as true.

People who aren't hypocritical partisan hack dupes will realize this.
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Old 08-10-2013, 11:36 AM
 
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First off, you are using your own cultural references to judge absolutely the culture of others. Their morality is not yours and vice-versa so your claim of human rights violations are merely interpretive and subjective; thus political when vented with infantile vitriol. Lay off the textbooks written by the glorifiers of Moses or join your Puritan buddys. Either way, make a decision and figure yourself out. Your bolds are things you read that you have not fully understood. It is rather simple. Culture defines what people feel they ought to be allowed to do, thus it is hand-in-glove with their airy idea of human rights. Why do you prefer to agitate and excite people over something so obviously true? Why choose to be a spanner in life? Then, when called out on those lame pity cards you tossed out an attack comes in the form of an inpromptu race card, and a raise by invoking Stalin and Hitler like some retired Cold War propagandist out for a last thrill with his pension. Marvelous! But what a tired playbook to lift tactics from. That sort of play died out with the last of the hippies! Now find these 'similiar' dictatorial quotes from those historical humanitarians and smear me by blending them in to what I typed. They had a lot to say about their people's inalienable 'human rights', too, and look at the results!

Human rights as a concept is a social engineering mechanic. Enjoy your slavery to a form of thought control created to keep people with too much existential blood on their hands busy working to open up regions thru political maneuvering to access their resources and wealth. Don't like it? Pity, there is much in life that could be called some grandiose 'human right'. That doesn't make it so. And the UN doesn't love you back.

Now hey, hear this: RUSSIA IS NONE OF YOUR CONCERN! That's right, none of your concern. Do you pay taxes there, do you live there and if you think the people are attractive there, how nice, so are you there yet? But you "won't sit idle" when you can scream about 'human rights violations'. You can't sit still can you? You must react as puppets do, all afire over something that you know is right as you are some 'enlightened Westerner' full of wisdom for the benefit of cute, suffering heathens. I am born and raised American and I can tell you how stupid that sort of roamntic label is. The only thing a Westerner is enlightened about is how to stick their long snouts into the business of societies where they're not wanted to make a dollar- or buttress their own sinking ethical ships.

This human rights thing is all about cultural imperialism. Always has been. Always will be. The very concept defines cultural imperialism, something you would call enlightenment while revealing the inner-schizo when some follow up lines flow about the greatness of diversity expressed thru multi-culturalism- as the work proceeds to modify and make homogenous those diverse alien cultures paid lip service at their awesome foreign-ness. I pity you your torment. To not be able to critique all one is told and not see the implanted rift. The words you type indicate what the issue is and perhaps a trip to a professional who casts no negative judgement as to how people ought to be may help you deal with this apparent identity crisis. And no, I do not respect attempts to subvert other people into doing my selfish bidding. I live a life free from the need to extract from others their identity in order to bolster my own by molding them into reflections that act, look and live just like me, nodding their heads with mine.

And FYI, a majority doesn't like its culture subverted by a slim minority that cannot even control its own self-destructive tendencies. The major cause of this destruction being what I bolded in your huff-puff blow-me-down explosion. Twice now, that line. Too revealing, too sad- and right at home...
I am not using my 'culture' to judge others. There are countless aspects about American culture that I find repulsive as well. You claim my viewpoints come from my culture, well at least they aren't coming from PURE BIGOTRY like yours are!

"Human rights as a concept is a social engineering mechanic." No, no it is NOT smart one! Human rights are inalienable. Human rights cross cultural and ethnic boundaries. I don't expect you or Russians to understand this though as Russia has probably the worst human rights record on history. But hey, I guess YOU think instances like the Holodomar were completely OKAY because Russian culture permitted it!

Human rights never has been and never will be a form of cultural imperialism. If you truely believe this then you need to look at yourself in the mirror and face up to the bigot that you are. Using some STUPID excuse that TORTURING other HUMAN BEINGS is okay because your culture allows it. I don't know what culture you belong to, but you need to start analyzing its flaws real quick.
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Old 08-10-2013, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The "gay agenda" of course, being equality and not encountering bigotry and discrimination. How shocking.
What bigotry.. we have hate laws . It is the acceptance of gay sexual deviant behavior that the gays are pushing for here in America.. Obama should keep his trap shut on gay issues in the world. This president is sounding more gay than ever.
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