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Old 08-19-2013, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Originally Posted by Ed from California View Post
93% of blacks vote dem? Then 93% of them are stupid.
What is stupid is this fallacy that somehow blacks can't command an intelligence that gives them th ability to discern what and who is in their best interest.Especially 93%.

Fact is that 64% of whites voted for president on the last election.Compare that with 66% of black voters.
The last election was the first time in HISTORY blacks voted more than whites.

Why?No.Not because WE are stupid.Shows real ignorance to even suggest that such a simple minded answer would be for such a complex statement.

A person with logic could look at history and what drives human nature of all races.Survival.
Some blacks have done so by just not voting.A dubious history of the U.S. has lead blacks to believe this country is a home where we are merely tenants paying rent.Not owners.
Up until recently blacks voted at a much lower percentage than whites.In fact Hispanics also vote in even lower numbers.
Groups that don't feel invested often don't vote.Why would you when you rarely see someone who looks like you or talks to your concerns.All people do not have the same problems.To act as we do is completely misguided.Its an attempt to pass judgement because some cannot empathize,or simply do not care.

A more logical reason would be that blacks for the first time see opportunity in being a part of our nations future.
When you look at the Democratic party you see more women,gays,a dn blacks.
Where are these in mass in the Republican party?And you really think because blacks are stupid is the answer?
73% of Asian voted for Obama.Are they also stupid?
71% of Hispanics voted for Obama.Stupid?
It almost sounds like you are saying white people are obviously smarter because there was less of a majority that voted Democrat
Ok...LOL.Who looks stupid now?
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:46 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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One merely has to look at the GOP convention delegates to know that Republicans aren't looking for black participation. They'd rather rely upon keeping blacks away from the polls in order to win elections.
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Old 08-20-2013, 06:53 AM
 
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Hmmm.... what political party was George Wallace?
The Democratic Party of 1950 is not the same as the one of 1968. And George Wallace was a Dixiecrat. He eventually left the party when LBJ passed the Civil Rights bill. And then he ran for President as an Independent. Hubert H. Humphrey was a Democrat who ran in the 1968 election. He was alot more for Civil Rights than Richard M. Nixon was.

Now think about these things:
Lily-White Movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Republicans were trying to purge itself of Blacks.

Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:01 AM
 
Location: North America
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Plus research would show that the vote-buyers provide, as LBJ said, "give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference."

a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 percent of the votes.

Some Of The Lost History In The Civil Rights Movement

Yea keep voting Democrat that's your choice. At least it's good for the politicians.

Google Dixiecrats, and see what you find. The current GOP doesn't even come close to resembling the party that freed the slaves and helped pass the voting rights act.
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:02 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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IC and I have been through this previously - she doesn't want to live near poor people, and wants government to exclude them from her neighborhood to the extent possible (through zoning etc).
I never said that. If you disagree, post a link in which I said that.

What I did say was whoever wants to buy a home should work harder/smarter and make better life and financial decisions to enable one to achieve that goal.
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:06 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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When did I say anything about affordability? Some people just value and stress education to their kids more than others. Chicago is about 30% white, 30% black, and 30% Hispanic, but the Chicago public school system is only 7% white with many of the white kids enrolled in the magnet schools. Now, the reason for the disparity in Chicago is because the white families are sending their kids to private schools or older empty nesters that moved from the suburbs.

Chicago isn't California, but the trend can be found in any city across the USA.
Exactly. Even true blue liberal Chicago's schoolchildren are very heavily VOLUNTARILY segregated.
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:16 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Why don't you pay attention to what you write?

I asked you about forced desegregation ie outlawing the FORCED segregation of the pre-60s. Obviously only one of those forced laws is fascism.
False dichotomy. Either such law is fascist.
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So which is it? Is forcing people into segregation fascism or is outlawing segregation fascism?
Both are fascist. That's the point. Both require people to do what they ordinarily wouldn't do. See my above post on liberal Chicago and that even Chicago's schoolchildren are very heavily VOLUNTARILY segregated.
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:36 AM
 
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Conservatives: what if 93% of Blacks vote Democrat b/c they oppose "states rights," the rallying call for those opposed to the integration movement?

Let's face it... that's as credible a reason for why Blacks vote Democrat as anything that you've presented.
I'd have to say 93% of blacks were racist idiots then.
Oh, the horror.
Libs chime in and attack starting in 3,2,1...
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:41 AM
 
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I'm not sure why a black person would support a democracy. It seems to me that they'd be better off in a republic. The whole point of a republic is to ensure the rights of the minority (even just one) against the power of the majority.

Also, it doesn't make sense that a republican would be racist or seek to marginalize a particular group/person. That's exactly what they'd be against.

Yet, culturally, republicans are racists and blacks vote democratic.

It's so confusing.
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:46 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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One merely has to look at the GOP convention delegates to know that Republicans aren't looking for black participation. They'd rather rely upon keeping blacks away from the polls in order to win elections.
A black man or woman would be crazy to announce they are republican. Look what happened to the ones that did. Today it's illegal to whip but that does not mean it can't be done with venomous words and that's exactly what happened. Even other blacks joined in the whipping.
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