Obamacare Exchanges: naive, innumerate, or disingenuus?

[Hoonose]

Originally Posted by Goinback2011

The one group that consistently opposes leftists is senior citizens.

People wise up by the time they're 60.

There's no way the Dims want people living longer.

This has been true and I believe it a left over originating from the Great Depression and WW2. As most of these elderly are dying off as we speak I think more elderly over time will tend to the left.

"Keep your Gov't hands off my Medicare!"

[Hoonose]

Originally Posted by TigerLily24

How so?

Theoretically just the opposite. Over time less people will be tied to job connected/supported HC plans.

[EmeraldCityWanderer]

Originally Posted by Crossfire600

Simply do a google search. I don't think anyone needs to provide you with numbers. Hell, even a lot if Democrats are distancing themselves from this train wreck. Waiver upon waiver due to a law passed in the middle of the night with bribes that would have put you or I in prison. I would feel the same way regardless of what party passed this freaking mess.

Click here: math behind obamacare - Google Search

You will notice the search is neutral. Now, if you actually read it and more importantly understand it maybe you'll change your tone before the village idiot takes everyone down including you.

I ask for numbers because each good and bad opinion has a different set of assumptions.

The search is neutral, you obviously are not. There are good and bad assmptions of Obamacare in the ~2,700,00 results, yet you seem to have willfully ignored all the ones that don't agree with your one sided nutty view of it. I have read the law, and understood it, since it was passed because it's my job to.

I'll change my tone when wingnuts quit lying. I am honestly sick of wingnuts crying wolf over and over, then expecting people to believe the next verbal diarhea they spew like people can't bring up the history of lie after lie. Have the integrity to stick to the truth and people will listen.

If you don't like that, tough. The reality is if people lack the personal integrity to tell the truth, they should stop lying instead of complaining when people point out they are lying.

[evilnewbie]

Originally Posted by freemkt

The Oregon exchange is screaming LONG LIVE OREGONIANS!

Don't they know that is financially unsustainable? Are they unable to do the math? Or are they just flat out lying in order to promote their agenda?

They are obviously lying... I have not heard ONE insurance company in the exchange get contracted to any hospital or physician office to negotiate a fee schedule... what you are going to find is, "You got insurance, but no hospital or doctor is in your in-network provider list. Have a nice day." Months later they will say, "Yeah, we found several hospitals and doctors to be in-network. Unfortunately your premiums just doubled/tripled." They will hope that by that time, you would have forgotten what regular hospital premiums were.

[TigerLily24]

Originally Posted by Hoonose

Theoretically just the opposite. Over time less people will be tied to job connected/supported HC plans.

That's what I think as well, which is why I am trying to get a better understanding of what the OP is objecting to.