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Old 09-09-2013, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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All empirical evidence is against goes against your beliefs.
What does this even mean?
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Old 09-09-2013, 01:37 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I know the shoreline like the back of my hand in some areas and IF? the sea level is rising it is such a small amount it Isn't noticeable!!! and that is over a period of 40 years!! that ipcc prediction will not be even close the what they project. who the hell knows what's going to happen in 20, 40, 60, 80, 100 years maybe the sea will rise some, maybe the ice caps will regenerate. who the heck knows they just want to instill fear in the masses.. just to many variables in a changing climate to make such predictions in only a few decades of data..
The sea level is rising everywhere, but in some areas it may not appear to be rising in relation to the land because of Post-glacial rebound - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 09-09-2013, 01:44 AM
 
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Solid science since 1896.
What do you know about "solid science"? Since 1896 science hasn't observed an ice age. Just confirmation bias.
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:24 AM
 
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Why not tell the truth?....You may not have noticed the rising sea level, but it is happening all the same...
Hmmmm....the first chart of the thread.

I've stated before that I've been fishing off the same exact pier on the Delaware river for 40 years....NO change what-so-ever in high tide.

I don't need no stinkin' chart to tell me the opposite of what I see.
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:37 AM
 
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What does this even mean?
It means that all evidence proves that you're wrong.

algore spend millions of dollars on a house on the ocean in Malibu.....while screaming about rising sea levels. Why?

The beaches on the Jersey shore are no smaller than they were 50 years ago.

The local rivers where I live have not risen in my lifetime.

Millionaire lefties all over the country have million dollar properties ON beach fronts, all the while telling believers that ocean front will be wiped out shortly.

Follow the money. I know it's hard to believe that a man of algores character would lie about it, but he became extremely wealthy from this crap.

Think for yourself.
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:39 AM
 
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The sea level is rising everywhere, but in some areas it may not appear to be rising in relation to the land because of Post-glacial rebound - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Always excuses.

"Don't believe what you see or experience. We'll tell you what you're actually experiencing!"
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:50 AM
 
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That's a popular myth. But it's just a myth. No, the 'experts' were NOT telling us in the 1970's that an Ice Age was coming. The vast majority of climate papers in the 1970s predicted warming.

The 1970s Ice Age Myth and Time Magazine Covers

Even most climate change skeptics know better than to use that myth as it's so easily debunked.

The Myth of the 1970s Global Cooling Scientific Consensus

"An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming. A review of the literature suggests that, on the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking as being one of the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales. More importantly than showing the falsehood of the myth, this review describes how scientists of the time built the foundation on which the cohesive enterprise of modern climate science now rests."
Sorry, it wasn't a myth. It was real and got lots of publicity. Jim Hansen was leading the charge.

I remember it. That the proponents are now trying to erase their history is so Stalinesque.
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Old 09-09-2013, 05:50 AM
 
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What does this even mean?
God knows.
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Old 09-09-2013, 05:59 AM
 
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Sorry, it wasn't a myth. It was real and got lots of publicity. Jim Hansen was leading the charge.

I remember it. That the proponents are now trying to erase their history is so Stalinesque.
There may have been media hype in the popular press, but do a literature search in the major science Journals for the 1970's and the majority of articles were about future warming.

The whole hoohah started with the fact that global average temperature had cooled slightly between the 40's to the 70's and there had been 2 record cold winters . But only a small number of scientists, mainly geologists, speculated about 'global cooling'. The vast majority did not think we were in for an "ice age" and that the cooling period would end and warming would continue. There was also a 1971 paper about the possible effects of increasing aerosol usage which sparked some discussion, plus 2 popular press articles in the Times and Newsweek and some political attention.

Try finding a published Journal article by climate scientists from the 1970's that predicted (or even speculated about) a coming ice age (apart from that one paper on aerosols).

Jim Hansen never made any Ice Age or Global Cooling claims in the 70's. Don't believe everything you read on conspiracy websites or the non-academic popular press.

So when someone says "the 'experts' in the 1970's predicted a coming Ice Age", it doesn't have much more validity than claiming "NASA faked the moon landing".

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Old 09-09-2013, 06:02 PM
 
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Another magazine quoting a tabloid magazine. Do you right wingers believe everything that is on the internet?
Sure I do. You pull all these graphs and crap from the internet and proclaim its true when it agrees with your position.
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