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I know most of the poster here are covered by Medicare, Tricare, VA or work place insurance. But knowing what you know about Obamacare and if you are a Republican its acomplete takeover of health care would you sign up for it? Are you Tea Partiers telling your children not to sign up for it. How about if your grandchildren have serious health problems. Will you tell your kids to take a bullet for the Republican Party?? Wondering just how much you hate Obama and the Dems??
ACA is the furthest thing from a government take over of health care.
ACA is not universal health care.
Medicare is the closest thing we have to universal healthcare. One of the primary thing wrong with Medicare is that Payroll Taxes never, not once, during its almost 50 years in existence, kept pace with the cost of healthcare let alone inflation. It's been deficit spending all along.
That we are paying the same tax rates as we have for 25 years says it all.
Congress has elected, all along, to not take the basic actions the rest of the world has to better control the cost of healthcare. It's been a gigantic handout for the lobbies of hospitals, big pharma and manufacturers of medical equipment.
ACA is the furthest thing from a government take over of health care.
ACA is not universal health care.
Medicare is the closest thing we have to universal healthcare. One of the primary thing wrong with Medicare is that Payroll Taxes never, not once, during its almost 50 years in existence, kept pace with the cost of healthcare let alone inflation. It's been deficit spending all along.
That we are paying the same tax rates as we have for 25 years says it all.
Congress has elected, all along, to not take the basic actions the rest of the world has to better control the cost of healthcare. It's been a gigantic handout for the lobbies of hospitals, big pharma and manufacturers of medical equipment.
I agree, except don't forget all the many millions of Medicare beneficiaries who have received better health, life and happiness all these years.
With 72% of it paid for by.... YOU AND ME. This without having to conform to the income requirements that you and I have to.
We also pay for those uninsured. That is why ins. and hospital costs are so high, to help cover the costs of those w/o insurance. So either way, we pay! If coverage is widespread, then costs will go down. But if we keep on as we have been, we will be responsible to pay for those uninsured, at a much higher rate.
Well, starting on October 1st, there will be a big "education" sweep going to churches, college campuses, community centers, and in some places, door to door, to encourage enrollment in the new exchanges here in California.
Now, Harrier has enrolled in many things over the course of his life - liberal government indoctrination centers(for which his parents had to sign because he was under 18), college and university, various classes, insurance plans, a service organization, and several miscellaneous activities. To effectively do so, he always had to sign some paper(with the exception of the above mentioned liberal government indoctrination centers).
It would seem apparent that if one must enroll in something, that they are also "signing up" for such thing.
The current law says that Harrier must sign up for Obamacare or be penalized.
In the interest of upholding the constitution and securing liberty, Harrier will engage in the long and proud American tradition of civil disobedience - he will never have health insurance so long as he is required to do so by a distant federal bureaucracy.
Will Harrier also refuse all medical care for which he cannot pay?
We also pay for those uninsured. That is why ins. and hospital costs are so high, to help cover the costs of those w/o insurance. So either way, we pay! If coverage is widespread, then costs will go down. But if we keep on as we have been, we will be responsible to pay for those uninsured, at a much higher rate.
Those not covered ill stay right about the same as before this debacle passed.
Since the ACA will be another taxpayer funded program, similar and tied with Medicaid, it's not going to be good.
It might give free and unlimited health care to all -- and only some have to pay anything and the taxpayers will be reamed to pay for it, there is very likely a catch.
Please explain your logic behind thinking that not having healthcare because someone is unable to afford it is "good" for that someone, while having healthcare because ACA is providing a subsidy that makes it affordable for someone is "bad" for that someone. This is such a strange concept that so many of you ACA opponents have -- that the people ACA makes health coverage affordable for somehow would have a better situation next year if they lived another year without adequate healthcare -- that inadequate healthcare is somehow a positive thing while adequate healthcare is a negative thing. It's sounds so nonsensical and silly that it really needs to be explained, to make sure that you're fully integrating into your assessment the real human lives of 25 million people who were not able to afford healthcare this year and who will be able to next year.
So the drill is to not sign up, pay the fine, and if you get seriously ill then sign up, right? Or do I just go to the emergency room and say "No Hablo Anglais!"?
We also pay for those uninsured. That is why ins. and hospital costs are so high, to help cover the costs of those w/o insurance. So either way, we pay! If coverage is widespread, then costs will go down. But if we keep on as we have been, we will be responsible to pay for those uninsured, at a much higher rate.
All I can say to this is "when is the tooth fairy and santa set to arrive?
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