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Old 06-18-2013, 07:08 PM
 
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In Boston (and numerous other situations), the police and rescue personnel were held to a higher esteem than they should have been. For what exactly? Doing what they are trained and paid to do??

The logic is simple:

If a person willfully engages in public service that involves certain levels of danger, and those persons take a paycheck and benefits to engage in that danger, then they shouldn't be held up as heroes.

In fact, if those persons refused to act or refused to show up in a time of need while getting paid, then most people would demand they be held accountable for their inaction. After all, they're getting paid and failed to perform their duties, right?

While we can and should appreciate that people choose these paid professions, its ridiculous to hold them up as heroes for doing their JOB.

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Old 06-18-2013, 07:12 PM
 
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In Boston (and numerous other situations), the police and rescue personnel were held to a higher esteem than they should have been. For what exactly? Doing what they are trained and paid to do??

The logic is simple:

If a person willfully engages in public service that involves certain levels of danger, and those persons take a paycheck and benefits to engage in that danger, then they shouldn't be held up as heroes.

In fact, if those persons refused to act or refused to show up in a time of need while getting paid, then most people would demand they be held accountable for their inaction. After all, they're getting paid and failed to perform their duties, right?

While we can and should appreciate that people choose these paid professions, its ridiculous to hold them up as heroes for doing their JOB.
Agreed.
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:15 PM
 
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Jim McClure: Heroes of Boston - police officers are truly people who matter - The York Daily Record

I disagree with the premise.
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:17 PM
 
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I suppose you have a point, but when they go above and beyond what is expected and past protocol, would they not be heroes then? After all, they would be outside the scope of their job responsibilities?
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:19 PM
 
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I suppose you have a point, but when they go above and beyond what is expected and past protocol, would they not be heroes then? After all, they would be outside the scope of their job responsibilities?
Maybe. But only for those who do so.

[not the whole department or profession]
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:22 PM
 
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Individuals perform heroic acts, but dressing in a government costume and doing the agreed upon job isn't one of them
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:23 PM
 
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We have people that pop in to the Charlotte forum that are retiring from cop jobs up north that pay more than $100K per year. Sometimes they make it clear that they earned more than the got and we should recognize it.

I say that a hero can't be self defined. It is what is in other people's minds that matter. This goes for the military as well. Anyone exposed to any of these groups knows there are slackers, scammers and the like there too like everywhere.

It is possible to do something heroic in these positions. Something beyond what is required. Those might be heroes but the best sign that someone is a hero is that they say they are not.
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:24 PM
 
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I think the point is that they are willing to take on a physically dangerous and psychologically tough profession in the first place.

Man, you guys are so sour about every damn thing you make my teeth hurt.
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:31 PM
 
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I think the point is that they are willing to take on a physically dangerous and psychologically tough profession in the first place.

Man, you guys are so sour about every damn thing you make my teeth hurt.
Willingness to collect a paycheck while doing so makes that person a hero?
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:34 PM
 
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Willingness to collect a paycheck while doing so makes that person a hero?
We need different level of heroes. Office workers at the bottom, people that wash windows of skyscrapers should be heroes too.
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