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Old 09-20-2013, 02:49 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Remember when Obama and his cohorts were telling us that there were ZERO new taxes in Obamacare? (This was at the same time Nancy Pelosi was telling us we had to pass it in order to find out what was in it.)

Suckers.

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Money Morning

The Hidden Obamacare Taxes That Will Crush The Middle Class

By Money Morning Staff Reports

Get ready to be blindsided by a barrage of new taxes. $1 trillion worth...

They'll be coming courtesy of the Affordable Care Act, otherwise known as Obamacare. And they won't just be affecting those who make over $250,000. The bulk of these taxes will be passed on directly to the middle class.

That's because while a majority of these "stealth taxes" were designed to be taxes on businesses, they're actually transferred directly to ordinary citizens. They include the investment income surtax, a Medicare payroll tax, even a "tanning tax" on those who utilize indoor tanning services.

"Many of those [hidden] taxes, especially those on hospitals, insurers and medical device manufacturers, will ultimately be passed on to the consumer through higher health costs," said Michael Tanner an expert on the healthcare law. In fact, analysts estimate Obamacare will cost the average taxpayer nearly $6,000 in extra taxes as early as next year.
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Old 09-20-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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This has already been proven false since June 2011, and again in 2012.

This isn't new, or novel...it's a dumb point that's been refuted over and over again. Just the wingnuts that swallow partisan BS the pundits shout can't seem to reconcile reality with their beliefs.

Are conservatives even trying to come up with anything truthful, or have they stopped caring?
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Old 09-20-2013, 03:34 PM
 
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The ONLY way to stop this kind of BS is to start enacting taxes on all things leftist as soon as the opportunity arrives.

Take ALL of their money.

Tax everything they do, all the time.

Payback is gonna be a b*tch.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:13 PM
 
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Just a reminder that to take control of the country - the middle class (who can operate without government assistance) must be eradicated. Obamacare will be a big part of that unless it's altered.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:22 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Are conservatives even trying to come up with anything truthful, or have they stopped caring?
Nah, they haven't stopped caring. To stop, they first would have had to actually cared.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:32 PM
 
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Of course there are a bunch of new taxes, thats how its expected to run a surplus, and why the Supreme Court called it a tax increase..

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Old 09-20-2013, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Remember when Obama and his cohorts were telling us that there were ZERO new taxes in Obamacare? (This was at the same time Nancy Pelosi was telling us we had to pass it in order to find out what was in it.)

Suckers.

-------------------------------------

Money Morning

The Hidden Obamacare Taxes That Will Crush The Middle Class

By Money Morning Staff Reports

Get ready to be blindsided by a barrage of new taxes. $1 trillion worth...

They'll be coming courtesy of the Affordable Care Act, otherwise known as Obamacare. And they won't just be affecting those who make over $250,000. The bulk of these taxes will be passed on directly to the middle class.

That's because while a majority of these "stealth taxes" were designed to be taxes on businesses, they're actually transferred directly to ordinary citizens. They include the investment income surtax, a Medicare payroll tax, even a "tanning tax" on those who utilize indoor tanning services.

"Many of those [hidden] taxes, especially those on hospitals, insurers and medical device manufacturers, will ultimately be passed on to the consumer through higher health costs," said Michael Tanner an expert on the healthcare law. In fact, analysts estimate Obamacare will cost the average taxpayer nearly $6,000 in extra taxes as early as next year.
Pile on top of all of those taxes are the new regulatory fees, and mandates on people and businesses coming from the administrative state, i.e. the EPA, FDA, HHS, Transportation, etc...

Here are some other unfortunate facts about the federal regulatory system:
  • 78,961 pages were added to the 2012 Federal Register. While that may be a lot of pages, it only was the fourth-most prolific year of all time (81,405 pages were added in 2010).
  • 2,517 rules were proposed in 2012, the most since 2003.
  • Of the over 4,000 regulations in the pipeline, 224 are “economically significant,” meaning they’ll cost more than $100 million.
  • The top five rule-making agencies of 2012 were the Departments of Treasury, Commerce, Interior, Agriculture, and Transportation. If you include EPA, which is sixth, these agencies accounted for 48% (1,953) of all federal rules.
Report: Total Regulatory Burden Hits $1.8 trillion Annually | Free Enterprise
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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This has already been proven false since June 2011, and again in 2012.

This isn't new, or novel...it's a dumb point that's been refuted over and over again. Just the wingnuts that swallow partisan BS the pundits shout can't seem to reconcile reality with their beliefs.

Are conservatives even trying to come up with anything truthful, or have they stopped caring?
When health insurance premiums in some states are going up 100% because of 0bamacare, what are we supposed to classify that as? According to the 0bama pom-pom waivers, we are supposed to ignore the punitive aspects of the ACA and 'praise be to 0bama.'
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:04 PM
 
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2017 the state mediaid cost increases are shifted to states. 2018 the excise tax on so called Cadillac plans unions are so upset with now they have read the bill.get a medical device well there will be a tax o that device .that alone at manufaturers level will promote shipping manufacturing overseas to cut cost.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:10 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Pile on top of all of those taxes are the new regulatory fees, and mandates on people and businesses coming from the administrative state, i.e. the EPA, FDA, HHS, Transportation, etc...

Here are some other unfortunate facts about the federal regulatory system:
  • 78,961 pages were added to the 2012 Federal Register. While that may be a lot of pages, it only was the fourth-most prolific year of all time (81,405 pages were added in 2010).
  • 2,517 rules were proposed in 2012, the most since 2003.
  • Of the over 4,000 regulations in the pipeline, 224 are “economically significant,” meaning they’ll cost more than $100 million.
  • The top five rule-making agencies of 2012 were the Departments of Treasury, Commerce, Interior, Agriculture, and Transportation. If you include EPA, which is sixth, these agencies accounted for 48% (1,953) of all federal rules.
Report: Total Regulatory Burden Hits $1.8 trillion Annually | Free Enterprise
And if you violate even ONE of them, the big-govt liberals (in both parties) have you exactly where they want you.

Good luck with that.
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