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Old 09-20-2013, 09:13 PM
 
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How do (you) feel about US corporations moving high paying American jobs to Asia?
Fortunately, when by the time I reached the years of my middle age, I had learned to use thinking, not feeling, to guide what I thought was good and bad. So, I don't "feel" anything about it. I KNOW why they do, and liberal politics is to blame.

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And how can we help those Americans who lost their high paying jobs to factory robots?
Tell them that they're victims of a political machine that has destroyed their future, and that there's no reason to work or try to do anything, just sit around and demand politicians give 'em stuff. /sarcasm

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But you don't care about those lost American jobs do you?
I "care" plenty. But I don't let emotion run my thinking. I want solutions, not feel good destructive notions.


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You just pretend to care about the middle class to spread the Fox news/Rush radio low taxes for corporations philosophy. The following thing is the only thing you want and care about.
Yeah... It can't be that people who THINK, instead of emote their way through life might be ahead of you in terms of what's true and correct, could it? Naw. Just keep thinking that hating them is the answer.


I learned years ago, that anything from "thinkprogress" is a lie, a bald faced, stupid lie.


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And your boy Romney's tax cuts for the rich would have increased the average middle class family's tax burden by $2000.00 a year.
Romney is not "my boy". I'm not that old. My oldest son is only 26.

More utterly idiotic nonsense.

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How do you feel about Romney trying to increase the average middle class family's tax burden by $2000.00 a year?

LIke I said, I don't 'feel' my way through life. I think, and because of that, I know that your nonsense is.. .just nonsense.

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Answer: You want it and you love it.
No, I don't. But you hate, and that's the sum total of your "thoughts". Which are truly blind.
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Old 09-21-2013, 12:53 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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They are still ALL WRONG.
Says the person whose entire premise is based on a lie, namely:

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The ONLY place in the world, after 1800, where a middle class existed, was America.
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Old 09-21-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Nowadays there is more social mobility in the UK than there is in the US.

And do you seriously think that the 2.2 million WW2 veterans who got free educations thanks to the GI Bill weren't better off as a result?
The money that the vets used was taken from other people first. Then government took their cut (to push paperwork around) while they were redistributing it.

The money would have been spent more efficiently had been left with the rightful owners.

And those educations were not free. Not even close. That is ECON 101.

ECON 102: Anytime someone else pays for your goods/services those goods/services become more expensive. Which explains the inflated cost of college and healthcare.

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Old 09-21-2013, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Organized labor created the middle class--or at least made it a significant part of the class structure in The United States. There was no middle class to speak of in the years prior to The NLRA. There was a leisure class and there were varying strata of the poor.

The labor actions which took place in the early decades of The Twentieth Century are what laid the foundation for a viable middle class. Unfortunately, it is our government's anti-worker/pro-capital policies of the last four decades which are sounding the death knell for the middle class.
Manufacturing wages jumped 50% from 1865-1890 and 34% from 1891-1914. Less than 3% of the workforce was union and they had zero legal protection. Child labor also was in rapid decline. And millions of unionized European workers left their home countries for the non-union U.S. All one has to do is look at Census Bureau records to smash the lie by labor unions that they did anything for workers. They began to keep blacks and Asians out of good paying jobs. "Union made" was code for "Made by Whites"

If unions cared about workers they wouldn't be concerned with strike-busters and non-union Wal Mart employees. After all, those people are only wanting to work unfettered.
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