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Again, you're just not grasping the point the OP was trying to make and what this thread is about. It's wrong in both cases to generalize. Neither one is more right than the other (as you incorrectly imply). This idea that owning a gun is bad is just absurd. This whole idea that being a muslim is bad is just absurd. Those who generalize either are clearly intellectually weak.
No, you're not grasping that I was agreeing with the OP. It is illogical to blame all gun owners for gun deaths when we don't blame all muslims for violence in the name of islam. It's actually more illogical to blame gun owners given they don't have a religion that teaches violence. I am NOT blaming all muslims for violence committed in the name of islam. I'm simply pointing out that there is more reason to do that than there is reason to blame all gun owners.
You're reading what you want to read into my post.
So you would support common sense government regulations being placed on owning the Koran? What about waiting periods for obtaining a Koran? What about Koran registration?
Not the OP but when was the last time someone was killed with the koran? Were they bludgeoned with it?
Guns are weapons. Books aren't. Well, not in the sense that the book itself will be the weapon they kill with. You have to make sure fruit cakes don't get guns. Hence the waiting periods.
In another thread someone posted a link to an article on how many mass killings are committed by people who had been on psychotropic drugs. Maybe that needs to be part of the background check.
Just pointing out the irony of attacking gun owners while it's considered not PC to say anything against muslims or others....obviously, my post went right over your head. Attacking gun owners and blaming all of them for the violence of a few makes no sense at all in a world that expects us to not blame every muslim in spite of the teachings of violence and the history of violence of the religion. The point, which you obviously missed, is there is actually a lot more reason to blam muslims for violence than there is gun owners for gun violence. Yet it's not PC to do so with muslims and is ok to do so with gun owners. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of saying it's not PC to blame members of a group with a history like that of the muslim religion while it's ok to say gun owners are to be blamed for gun deaths. A little reading comprehension goes a long way.
But there are those who commit gun violence in the name of Islam....but I guess that's the fault of gun owners too...
I know it's fun attacking a straw man but who has a problem with all gun owners?
Not the OP but when was the last time someone was killed with the koran? Were they bludgeoned with it?
Guns are weapons. Books aren't. Well, not in the sense that the book itself will be the weapon they kill with. You have to make sure fruit cakes don't get guns. Hence the waiting periods.
You sound like the people who claim that voting never hurt anyone. The Koran, much like voting has killed more people on this planet than any gun nuts could dream of.
No, you're not grasping that I was agreeing with the OP. It is illogical to blame all gun owners for gun deaths when we don't blame all muslims for violence in the name of islam. It's actually more illogical to blame gun owners given they don't have a religion that teaches violence. I am NOT blaming all muslims for violence committed in the name of islam. I'm simply pointing out that there is more reason to do that than there is reason to blame all gun owners.
You're reading what you want to read into my post.
I'm reading exactly what you're saying. You're going beyond what the OP is saying. You're injecting fallacy by saying things like Islam teaches violence which is an inaccurate generalization in itself making you a hypocrite. Realistically, you cannot generalize about gun owners or muslims and there is no reason to it to one over the other... which is exactly the OPs point... but you are so bias that you cannot understand that.
The problem is, no one is attacking all gun owners because of the few gun nutters who kill and yet all right-wingers believe all Muslims are terrorist.
Then why is the current administration in the Middle East? Don't drone me bro.
Show some proof that that the right thinks all muslims are terrorists.
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Attacking gun owners and blaming all of them for the violence of a few makes no sense at all in a world that expects us to not blame every muslim in spite of the teachings of violence and the history of violence of the religion. The point, which you obviously missed, is there is actually a lot more reason to blam muslims for violence than there is gun owners for gun violence. Yet it's not PC to do so with muslims and is ok to do so with gun owners. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of saying it's not PC to blame members of a group with a history like that of the muslim religion while it's ok to say gun owners are to be blamed for gun deaths. A little reading comprehension goes a long way.
