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Old 10-01-2013, 02:14 PM
 
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Internet media will be outlawed?
Really?
True investigative media will no longer exist?
Yeah, BB do yourself a favor and go read the bill. Got links earlier.
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Old 10-01-2013, 02:15 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) insisted on limiting the legal protection to "real reporters" and not, she said, a 17-year-old with his own website.
"I can't support it if everyone who has a blog has a special privilege …



So, it is a privilege to listen to ms. Feinstein?
It takes special privileges, to hear what an elected official has to say, publicly?
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Old 10-01-2013, 02:16 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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So much for free speech. Notice they keep using the word protection and shield.
Bill to protect journalists clears Senate panel - latimes.com
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Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) insisted on limiting the legal protection to "real reporters" and not, she said, a 17-year-old with his own website.
"I can't support it if everyone who has a blog has a special privilege … or if Edward Snowden were to sit down and write this stuff, he would have a privilege. I'm not going to go there," she said.

The people in this country need to wake the f*** up, and kick these bums (especially this gun grabbing hag) out of office!
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Old 10-01-2013, 02:18 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Yeah, BB do yourself a favor and go read the bill. Got links earlier.

No more Alex Jones?
No more Ron Paul TV?
No more Glen Beck TV?
No more Huffington Post?
No more Media Matters?
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Old 10-01-2013, 02:20 PM
 
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The people in this country need to wake the f*** up, and kick these bums (especially this gun grabbing hag) out of office!
More are waking up hopefully. More is coming out. This one concerned me because it has gotten little coverage.

They have tried on and off to get it passed. It falls right in line with all the recent movements to lock down the internet recently. It is making great strides this time in getting passed.
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Old 10-01-2013, 02:23 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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every democrat, republican and every other person in the country should be against what congress is attempting to do. if such a bill passes, how long will it be before your favorite media groups is declared an alternative media and banned?
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Old 10-01-2013, 02:24 PM
 
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No more Alex Jones?
No more Ron Paul TV?
No more Glen Beck TV?
No more Huffington Post?
No more Media Matters?
Look at the definitions first at the bottom, then read the exceptions. It is all about conditions, definitions and essentially procedures. The issue of govt compelling information.
S.987: Free Flow of Information Act of 2013 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress
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Old 10-02-2013, 07:25 AM
 
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This gives information on agencies and reps supporting this, including money. (66) in favor (0)opposed
S.987: Free Flow of Information Act of 2013 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress
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Text of S.987 as Introduced in Senate: Free Flow of Information Act of 2013 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress
Summary: (my bold)
To maintain the free flow of information to the public by providing conditions for the federally compelled disclosure of information by certain persons connected with the news media.

The title is such a contradiction.
How does something freely flow when it is controlled?

This seems to imply that only those defined as journalist are protected. However, they are using the term "covered person". That said the summary describes it as conditions for federally compelled disclosure. Nobody is being shielded here, except maybe the fed govt.

Those definitions are very important. The "covered person" is the longest. They took the word journalist out because of so much initial heat on this in 2009, iirc. However, they slip the term journalism in there indirectly. Particularly, in the definitions that define the different information types.

Look at the exceptions. Keep in mind what they are saying they can do. This is important in the application of both the definitions and the exceptions.

The other major concern here is the Big T and the PA. They have included that blank check in there. We have already seen what has been going under that guise with Snowden's info which was part of the updated interest in reintroducing this.

One has only to look at Feinstein's comments, as well as others in the admin. Not to mention actions.

Then there is all the other endless reports of this kind of thing.
Activist Post: Feds Identify 300,000 Americans as Terrorists

Those areas being excepted under the Big T and the PA refer to other definitions. See this. Seems to me the internet would fit right in there.
42 USC § 5195c - Critical infrastructures protection | Title 42 - The Public Health and Welfare | U.S. Code | LII / Legal Information Institute

Communication service providers are also discussed in this bill. As are "work products".
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:08 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Faux Snooze is the top alternative media and they lie to prove the crap they spew
ROFLMAO!! And from your house, I suppose MSNBC is a beacon of truth and enlightenment? Having an opinion doesn't mean you're right. FOX does have a conservative slant, just as the rest slant liberal. Is there anything evil about opposing views?

I have noticed that liberals have a tendency to attack, demean and insult any and all who question their doctrine. It must be nice to just make up your own facts out of thin air and to be entitled to not tolerating dissent. To be so beyond any questioning has to be quite....exhilerating.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:32 AM
 
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Feinstein believes that a proposed media shield law should be applied only to who she refers to as “real reporters.” Feinstein chastises other reporters as “basement-dwelling, pajama-clad bloggers with no professional credentials”
She could easily say the same for herself as we need "Real Representatives" and stop with the "Pajama-Clad" representatives who constantly tread on others rights.
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