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I'm still confused to how this is President Obama's or the Democrats fault? Is it because they aren't signing their own law out of existence? That sounds illogical as hell on Republicans part if that is the truth. As long as we don't default on our debts, we can go through this shut-down but I've been furloughed myself and I don't even work for the federal government therefore I'd like things to get back to "normal" soon.
The state Department of Natural Resources on Wednesday refused a directive from the National Park Service to close a host of popular state properties because of the federal government shutdown.
The park service ordered state officials to close the northern unit of the Kettle Moraine, Devil's Lake, and Interstate state parks and the state-owned portion of the Horicon Marsh, but state authorities rebuffed the request because the lion's share of the funding came from state, not federal coffers.
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The agency also reopened a boat launch Wednesday at Wyalusing State Park on the Mississippi River. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service closed the launch on Tuesday because it was on federal land.
But in a sign of defiance, the DNR removed the barricades at the landing, saying it had the legal authority to operate the launch under a 1961 agreement with the federal government.
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... Walker blamed both sides for partially shutting the federal government down for the first time in 17 years.
"I think blame can go around for everybody," Walker said.
"The best way to resolve it? Look at what we did in Wisconsin. We had a $3.6 billion deficit; we now have more than a half-a-billion-dollar surplus.
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The governing situations facing President Barack Obama, a Democrat, and Wisconsin's Republican governor are different. Control of Congress is split between the parties, while Republicans in Wisconsin control both houses of the state Legislature.
Congrats to Wisconsin on holding firm when Walker was under fire. Now they are financially in the black.
This is how states should be operating. And it is good to see some legal defiance to the feds.
Do you see the part I bolded in black? Now you know why the state of Wisconsin will be keeping the parks open.
But don't let that stop you from trying to put a spin on the story. If the park were 100% federally funded, Wisconsin troll lawmakers would be singing a different tune.
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Because Congress did not fulfill its responsibility to pass a budget,
much of the federal government
is shut down.
I do believe your poutrage is misdirected possibly, presidents do not pass budgets, the congress does, then sends the bill/s to the president for his signature or veto. You really need to get up to speed on the legislative-bill writing process. I think your poutrage should be directed towards the teabaggin' republicons for not submitting a clean bill.
And, since this is a thread about the government shutdown, you probably should have posted you message in this thread, Gov. Shutdown Thread
I do believe your poutrage is misdirected possibly, presidents do not pass budgets, the congress does, then sends the bill/s to the president for his signature or veto. You really need to get up to speed on the legislative-bill writing process. I think your poutrage should be directed towards the teabaggin' republicons for not submitting a clean bill.
And, since this is a thread about the government shutdown, you probably should have posted you message in this thread, Gov. Shutdown Thread
but you needed to get attention for some reason.
Ed wants us to know he is unhappy with Obama. Again and again and again and again and again and again.
Ed wants us to know he is unhappy with Obama. Again and again and again and again and again and again.
Yeah well, a lot of conservatives are butthurt lately, and they keep starting these gov't shutdown threads even when the mods made a sticky for it.
I read news this morning that the house speaker is under a great deal of pressure from his own members to get something done, and how the teapublicans are still steering the speaker from behind, Boehner isn't much of a leader for the house when he has a few telling him what to do, he should be telling them what to do, yes?
Polls, eh? Like a stripper pole. That's what Obama is doing. Taking his turn on the pole. Cause he knows you lap dogs will come and lick up what he leaves behind. Polls, nothing more then twisted noodles. You don't even know if the results of the poll are legit. Most aren't. Many of them don't even poll anyone. They just write something up that will please the client that is paying for their services. Like a stripper. She'll tell you that you are sexy as long as you're stuffing dollar bills in her g-string.
Same silly and ignorant "the polls are skewed", "the polls are manipulated", "the polls are lying" nonsense folks like you insisted on before the last election - when nearly all the polls showed Obama would win.
How'd that work out for ya?
The polls say, what the polls say. The fact that you don't LIKE what the polls say doesn't make them invalid. Political campaigns pay attention to the polls (though when a candidate is behind they always insist "we don't pay attention to the polls") FOR A REASON - in general (and when taken as a group) the polls tend to be RIGHT.
Polls, eh? Like a stripper pole. That's what Obama is doing. Taking his turn on the pole. Cause he knows you lap dogs will come and lick up what he leaves behind. Polls, nothing more then twisted noodles. You don't even know if the results of the poll are legit. Most aren't. Many of them don't even poll anyone. They just write something up that will please the client that is paying for their services. Like a stripper. She'll tell you that you are sexy as long as you're stuffing dollar bills in her g-string.
Wow, tell that to the Republicans who are hanging on for dear life to the poll that states 59% of Americans don't like Obamcare.
Of course, they aren't paying attention to the poll that says "but 49% of them don't want to shut down government over defunding it." That poll is wrong naturally.
The American people didn't vote the Democrats out, just those living in newly drawn and bullet proof Congressional districts. American voters overwhelmingly voted for Democratic congressional candidates. Only Republican gerrymandering allowed the crazies to take over the asylum.
In 2012 more Americans voted for Democrats running for Senate, and more Americans voted for Democrats running for Congress. But despite Republicans losing what we'll call the popular congressional vote, they maintained their hold on the lower chamber.
It's often said that Americans prefer divided government and vote for it - lest one party operate without any brakes. But it doesn't appear that voters were choosing divided government the last election cycle. The Democratic presidential candidate won 50.6 percent to 47.8. Democratic senatorial candidates got 53.6 of votes compared to 42.9 percent for Republicans, and Democratic congressional candidates got 49 percent of the vote, compared to 48.2 for the Republicans. But the Republicans didn't feel the sting of national disapproval as much as they otherwise would have because they had done such a good job redrawing the lines of congressional districts.
[Further, the American people vote to elect Barak Obama president TWICE the candidate whose most prominent campaign issue was the passage and implementation of the Affordable Care Act.[/b]
Thank you for pointing out the obvious Ov! Americans don't seem to like paying for things unless it directly benefits them! I can only imagine when was the last time a rightwinger actually visited a National park and now they are complaining that the parks aren't "open".
Wow, tell that to the Republicans who are hanging on for dear life to the poll that states 59% of Americans don't like Obamcare.
Of course, they aren't paying attention to the poll that says "but 49% of them don't want to shut down government over defunding it." That poll is wrong naturally.
The problem is, those same people like the ACA. That kind of makes it tough for the Repubs, huh?
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