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The idea that innocent black men have to suffer from humiliation and be targeted on the basis of race by the police is not only morally wrong and racist. It is also a violation of the constitutional rights of those black men.
To suggest that crime is a "black" racial problem that has to be solved by the black race is fundamentally racist thinking.
Crime in America is an American problem caused by the issues facing American citizens.
You are correct, yet Black America has repeatedly shown that they can come together to fight against crime. Usually when it's a white-on-black crime (ex. Treyvon Martin). These events are simply too rare to have a significant impact on the crime rate.
A fact which has been discussed at length on CD is that young AA men represent about 3% of the US population, but are responsible for about 50% of the murders. It would probably help if Black America addressed this problem with the same fervor that was shown for TM.
You are correct, yet Black America has repeatedly shown that they can come together to fight against crime. Usually when it's a white-on-black crime (ex. Treyvon Martin). These events are simply too rare to have a significant impact on the crime rate.
A fact which has been discussed at length on CD is that young AA men represent about 3% of the US population, but are responsible for about 50% of the murders. It would probably help if Black America addressed this problem with the same fervor that was shown for TM.
This is a lie that black people only care about white on black crime.
This stat is irrelevant because over 99% of black men have never killed anyone.
Murder is not a racial problem. This is the fundamental conceit of racist thinking taking American social problems and saying they are black racial problems.
When it comes to raising revenue, harassment, and falsifying/planting evidence, its blacks and other minorities (blacks, poor people, hispanics, people with certain cars or who dress a certain way) who suffer the most. Statistics show the number of stops on people of color and other traits depending on area, are extremely disproportionate to the current majority (whites, upper middle class whites particularly).
Why should they be allowed to do this and is this the intended purpose of a government Police force to begin with?
Private Police forces can be maintained with much more transparency and due process.
We currently have the highest incarceration rate (per capita and raw numbers) in the world.
What are you going to do about it?
If people quit voting liberals into office - across the board in any capacity - you might see police presence go down.
Whites are getting to be more dangerous to them as they are armed with knowledge rather than violence. Cops hate intelligent people because they can't be cowed like an emotional hot head.
See many posters' response to this thread shows the distorted manner in which we think about crime and black men and shows why our policies are so distorted and wrong.
Over and over again, there is this idea that black men are to be held collectively guilty for the crime committed by other black men. Over and over again, there is this idea of collective black guilt for crime. That crime committed by individual black people is a collective black racial problem.
This thinking is fundamentally racist. Black men are not collective guilty and neither are black people. Citing crime statics has nothing to do with black men who are not criminals. Citing crime statistics has nothing to do with skin color at all.
These basic racist assumptions are the only way one can arrive at the conclusion that the manner black men are treated by the police is justified, and those basic racist assumptions are why black men are targeted by the police in the first place.
This is a lie that black people only care about white on black crime.[QUOTE][/QUOTE] That is NOT what I stated. Please don't twist my words.
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This stat is irrelevant because over 99% of black men have never killed anyone.
It's probably not irrelevant to all of the families who have lost their loved ones. Nine or ten thousand black Americans are murdered each year by less than 1% of the young AA men? Please provide a link to YOUR statistic.
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Murder is not a racial problem. This is the fundamental conceit of racist
thinking taking American social problems and saying they are black racial
problems.
I simply don't understand your thinking. It seems that you believe the issue shouldn't even be discussed because it is embarrassing? How is it "racist" to discuss the murder of almost 10,000 people each year. Problems are identified and resolved by dialogue.
I simply don't understand your thinking. It seems that you believe the issue shouldn't even be discussed because it is embarrassing? How is it "racist" to discuss the murder of almost 10,000 people each year. Problems are identified and resolved by dialogue.
Well, if that is not what you stated then you have no point about white on black crime.
What issue shouldn't be discussed? Embarrassing how and to whom?
I don't know what the race of a murderer has to do with anything and why that would be the topic of discussion.
10,000 black people are not murdered every year and black men don't murder 10,000 people a year.
Discussing murder has nothing to do with race, but if you bring race into the discussion..... then you are not discussing murder.
Well, if that is not what you stated then you have no
point about white on black crime.
So black America actually ignored the Trayvon Martin case? My bad! I apologize.
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What issue shouldn't be discussed? Embarrassing how and to whom?
Try to follow the thread. This is becoming an exercise in futility.
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I don't know what the race of a murderer has to do with anything and why that
would be the topic of discussion.
Once again. Never mind. All is well. Carry on.
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10,000 black people are not murdered every year and black men don't murder
10,000 people a year.
You need to do some research. You are wrong. (Try the FBI crime reports.) And yeah, I was shocked when I learned this.
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Discussing murder has nothing to do with race, but if you bring race into the
discussion..... then you are not discussing murder.
So murder is a one-dimensional issue? Race, age, sex, location, time, etc. are not relevant? Investigators may disagree with you about this.
Murder is a problem skin color is not.
What does that have to do with black men who don't break the law?
Like us "Irish" back in the day: we had to clean up OUR rep BEFORE other white people would accept us. Blacks are going through that same thing now IMHO. Again like the Irish; many people DIED from drinking, fighting and working dangerous jobs before being accepted. Too; like Blacks in 2013, it's like the Irish ladies were accepted 1st 100 years ago, THEN it followed for the men.
Like us "Irish" back in the day: we had to clean up OUR rep BEFORE other white people would accept us. Blacks are going through that same thing now IMHO. Again like the Irish; many people DIED from drinking, fighting and working dangerous jobs before being accepted. Too; like Blacks in 2013, it's like the Irish ladies were accepted 1st 100 years ago, THEN it followed for the men.
This is the thing though. Blacks have been working the dangerous jobs and going through problems. Blacks have been hated long before any kind of reputation for crime. Blacks have pretty much never been truly been accepted. As for the Irish, one has to consider this piece of literature "How The Irish Became White".
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Problems are identified and resolved by dialogue.
