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Old 11-07-2013, 12:43 PM
 
Location: PA
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So I'm driving in New Jersey and a cop car is the middle of the road and 2 cops are outside it stopping people.

They only stop them for no seat belts and direct them to an off road ticketing process of drivers not wearing their seat belts.

Now I have my seat belt on and I didn't get stopped or a ticket and as a drove by I noticed a motorcycle coming the other way. Of which I know he will not be stopped by the police about not having a seat beat and then I laugh that this entire process.

If the law is there to save your life, and protect you in a nanny state way I find it funny that in a motorcycle your allowed to be "unsafe" in one of the most dangerous vehicles and the closest they got to safety was a helmet. I find the concept if taken further would show the idea of a seat belt law is just plan stupid. Seat belts are good, they are not needed to be enforced by law.

Based on what I see, so many people got nabbed for no seat belt it shows me the law does really save lives only the person who made the choice to put it on saves the life of yourself.

Government continues to show me that behavior they want is force, it is not education or enlightenment and if the government educates your child your up for more government solutions when it comes to laws in the future.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:44 PM
 
Location: North America
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Just buckle up and drive on.

You part of the soverign citizen fraud or something?


BTW...didn't happen, another fake anecdote.

Godalmighty.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Seat belt laws have nothing to do about safety or saving lives. Like most modern law enforcement, it's about a revenue source. Shaking down drivers brings money into the town....arresting and prosecuting criminals, not so much.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:46 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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So I'm driving in New Jersey and
I've found the source of your problem, bolded above.

Correct this circumstance, and you'll be much better off.

No, no need to thank me, happy to help.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:47 PM
 
Location: PA
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Just buckle up and drive on.

You part of the soverign citizen fraud or something?

Gadalmighty.

Do you read posts or not even understanding the concept that a seat belt law doesn't need to be in existence considering the fact of motorcycles.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:48 PM
 
Location: PA
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I've found the source of your problem, bolded above.

Correct this circumstance, and you'll be much better off.

No, no need to thank me, happy to help.

I live in PA, drive in NJ for work. :-)

But you should just say the north east and the laws in general. :-)
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:49 PM
 
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Do you read posts or not even understanding the concept that a seat belt law doesn't need to be in existence considering the fact of motorcycles kinda how stupid the law really is and its purpose.

So write your congressman if you're so concerned. And maybe....just maybe thee are more people driving cars than motorcycles...ya think?
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:49 PM
 
Location: California
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Sometimes you have to have laws to protect the stupid people. Of course a motorcycle would not have a seat belt and helmets are the same type of thing. I know people who do wear a seat belt because they don't want a ticket and that is a good thing. If a person wants to take a chance and pay the ticket or pay with their life then that's their problem. It's a good law.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:51 PM
 
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So I'm driving in New Jersey and a cop car is the middle of the road and 2 cops are outside it stopping people.

They only stop them for no seat belts and direct them to an off road ticketing process of drivers not wearing their seat belts.

Now I have my seat belt on and I didn't get stopped or a ticket and as a drove by I noticed a motorcycle coming the other way. Of which I know he will not be stopped by the police about not having a seat beat and then I laugh that this entire process.

If the law is there to save your life, and protect you in a nanny state way I find it funny that in a motorcycle your allowed to be "unsafe" in one of the most dangerous vehicles and the closest they got to safety was a helmet. I find the concept if taken further would show the idea of a seat belt law is just plan stupid. Seat belts are good, they are not needed to be enforced by law.

Based on what I see, so many people got nabbed for no seat belt it shows me the law does really save lives only the person who made the choice to put it on saves the life of yourself.

Government continues to show me that behavior they want is force, it is not education or enlightenment and if the government educates your child your up for more government solutions when it comes to laws in the future.

Well, you should have made your argument some 40 years ago.

One reason that seat belt laws came into being was due to the danger, to other motorists, of those driving without seatbelts. Now, many cars today have 'bucket seats', but back in the olden days most cars had 'bench' seats. Even a minor skid on a wet road could cause a driver to slide away from the steering wheel, losing all control of the car.

Note that while the Federal government mandated that cars have seat belts back in the 1960s, it was not mandated that people wear them. That was left up to the states. I believe New Hampshire remains the sole State that does not mandate wearing seat belts.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:55 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Sometimes you have to have laws to protect the stupid people.
No, you don't.
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