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Old 11-19-2013, 09:41 AM
 
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domestic abusers accused and otherwise cannot own firearms according to the vawa. Thead fail. No more to see here.. move along.
How is it that George Zimmerman still had a gun which he held to his girlfriend's throat?
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Old 11-19-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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so your saying no contact orders dont work?
Do you mean restraining orders? The woman's life is often at increased risk during a restraining order against an abuser. Part of any restraining order should be automatic confiscation of guns.


When Restraining Orders Cannot Stop a Killer
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Old 11-19-2013, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Anyone with questionable history of domestic abuse should immediately have any guns confiscated.
Really? Is that really what you are saying? Because in your very first post, you said this:

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Anyone, who is in a relationship with a partner with a gun needs to consider this:
So, let's try this again....what, exactly, is your point?
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Old 11-19-2013, 09:58 AM
 
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Really? Is that really what you are saying? Because in your very first post, you said this:



So, let's try this again....what, exactly, is your point?
I have made my position very clear on this thread.

What is your opinion? Do you believe people with a history of suspected domestic abuse should be allowed to own/keep their guns?
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:00 AM
 
Location: NH and lovin' it!
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Here are some more signs...

A woman loves a partner who controls everything.

A woman loves a partner who calls her names or yells at her.

A woman loves a partner who shoves, pinches, hits, punches, kicks or otherwise hurts her.

A woman loves a partner who destroys her belongings.

A woman loves a partner who threatens to hurt her, the children, or pets.


You can take the gun out of the equation, but you can't eliminate the bad boy groupie mentality that draws these women to prison inmates, illiterate hood rats and violent drug addicts.

Without brain dead women actively seeking out the lowest form of sewer slime to attach themselves to, there is no domestic violence.
I haven't finished reading this thread yet, and I am sorry to be the one to tell you, but that is the most ignorant batch of conclusions I have ever run across.

There are men, and women, out there who cajole and manipulate a partner into a relationship and THEN the fun starts. Meanwhile, the partner has become invested in the relationship and then becomes afraid of staying and afraid of leaving at the same time. It's ugly. And you obviously don't know the first thing about it.

And, OP, some of us actually understand why you started this thread. Thanks.
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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Do you mean restraining orders? The woman's life is often at increased risk during a restraining order against an abuser. Part of any restraining order should be automatic confiscation of guns.


When Restraining Orders Cannot Stop a Killer
Accused domestic abusers are barred from owning firearms.. What more do you want?
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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I have made my position very clear on this thread.

What is your opinion? Do you believe people with a history of suspected domestic abuse should be allowed to own/keep their guns?
I believe that you started this thread under a false premise and now that you are being questioned, you are back peddling.

If you had "clearly" made your point, then you would have stated "anyone with a partner who has been accused or convicted of domestic abuse and has a gun..."

But you didn't say that.

Go edit your first post if that is what you truly were trying to accomplish.
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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I haven't finished reading this thread yet, and I am sorry to be the one to tell you, but that is the most ignorant batch of conclusions I have ever run across.

There are men, and women, out there who cajole and manipulate a partner into a relationship and THEN the fun starts. Meanwhile, the partner has become invested in the relationship and then becomes afraid of staying and afraid of leaving at the same time. It's ugly. And you obviously don't know the first thing about it.

And, OP, some of us actually understand why you started this thread. Thanks.
Thanks for your post. There is a lot of ignorance concerning domestic violence and a lot of educating that needs to be done.
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:07 AM
 
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Why don't you people understand that it is illegal for convicted domestic abusers to own guns. THE LAW IS ALREADY IN PLACE.
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:09 AM
 
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I believe that you started this thread under a false premise and now that you are being questioned, you are back peddling.

If you had "clearly" made your point, then you would have stated "anyone with a partner who has been accused or convicted of domestic abuse and has a gun..."

But you didn't say that.

Go edit your first post if that is what you truly were trying to accomplish.
My OP was to increase awareness of this growing problem. My following posts are pointing out what the solution is.

Now quit with the red herring crap and address the issue of this thread which is guns and domestic abuse.
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