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I do advocate social benefit even welfare; however, I do not want free hand-out.
1. If you receive welfare, you shouldn't allowed to vote.
2. If you receive welfare, you still need to work in some way to "earn" it.
3. The government or the taxpayers aren't responsible for raising your children - they go to foster homes if you can't afford.
If all these requirements exist, I am all for it.
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Originally Posted by seattlenextyear
Totally agree. Only rich white landowners without disabilities should be allowed to vote.
Do you think you could misrepresent what lifeexplorer said just a little bit better? Like claim he was writing in German or something? You haven't quite left reality completely behind just yet. Almost, but not quite. Try harder next time, and I'm sure you'll get there.
Do you think you could misrepresent what lifeexplorer said just a little bit better? Like claim he was writing in German or something? You haven't quite left reality completely behind just yet. Almost, but not quite. Try harder next time, and I'm sure you'll get there.
Hey, I'm not the one undermining democracy. Perhaps you could try redirecting your anger elsewhere?
Do you think you could misrepresent what lifeexplorer said just a little bit better? Like claim he was writing in German or something? You haven't quite left reality completely behind just yet. Almost, but not quite. Try harder next time, and I'm sure you'll get there.
Actually, I thought the seattle post was quite accurate and appropriate.
The problem with the prison population is that we are incarcerating people for activities that should not be crimes. If you take a look at the link I posted, it shows person-on-person crimes. What it doesn't show is crimes such as drug possession, which is where the majority of the difference in the numbers comes from. So, person on person crime rates are dropping - and have been dropping - for a decade. If crime rate was tied to income inequality, those numbers should have been going up in the last few years as the level of income disparity grew.
You can still argue their incarceration is still the result of income inequality. Drug dealing and drug use are often the result of want or need of income and despair of one's circumstances in life.
Minor inequality is fine and doesn't tend to show any degenerative social issues but substantial inequality always corresponds to higher incidents of murder, property crime, and petty theft. The correlation between socially corosive behavior and low Gini Coefficients is way too significant to ignore.
Ah and heres the insanity of the right. They seem to think that the left wants everyone to have the same, and thats not true at all. But they frame their argument that way, because actually defending extreme levels of inequality is MUCH harder when they actually look at the data. lifeexplorer......how about this....
No, that's just what YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE RIGHT so as to not try to defend what you do.
The right's complaint about the left, is not that they want everyone to have the same... It's that they exploit every slight inequity to demand the power to control, redistribute, and obstruct, all in the name of "fair" which is neither measurable, nor able to be defined. The issue, is that you want unrestricted and unlimited power in the hands of politicians - and demand that anyone not in agreement with such be damned as immoral, selfish, greedy, and evil.
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Theres a tiny village of 10 people. it costs 100/mo to survive. theres 2000 worth of money in the village. 9 folks have 90 each, and the tenth has the rest, and he loans the other 9 10/month, and puts the rest in a bank. Is this a good thing? Probably not. No investment will occur, the tenth guy doesnt benefit from it, and the other 9 cant afford it. In fact the infrasructure may have issues. A year later the income drops to 1800.
This is fantasyland. You presume that dollar value is finite, and that we have a shortage of CURRENCY. Neither is true, ergo, your entire premise is pure fiction.
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vs 9 folks have 140 each, and the tenth has 840. 9 guys spend money to start business's, the tenth guy does as well since he isnt increasing his wealth at the expense of the others.
a year later the tiny village has a income of 3K/yr....
Again, ALL FICTION. This has absolutely NO real life implication, it does not in ANY fashion represent reality.
As gov't has gotten bigger, inequality has too. We add one program after another, and the people at the bottom sink lower and lower. Warren Buffett complains that he pays a lower tax rate than his secretary. Buffett has armies of tax lawyers and accountants to minimize his rate. Obama & Buffett's answer to this problem? Why make the tax code even more complex, and while we're at it, add 2700 pages of Obamacare law. Sure you betcha.
Extremely wealthy families who influence governments. They do exist and they do influence government in order to line their pockets at the expense of the middle class. And that's a fact jack. The extremes have existed in the world and they are fascists governments and dictatorships. The United States is headed for--
plutocracy [pluːˈtɒkrəsɪ]
n pl -cies
1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) the rule or control of society by the wealthy
2. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a state or government characterized by the rule of the wealthy
3. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a class that exercises power by virtue of its wealth
[from Greek ploutokratia government by the rich, from ploutos wealth + -kratia rule, power]
The solution is simple: Remove the power from government. Then government simply cannot line anyone's pockets, nor can it choose winners and losers.
You believe that massive gaps between the wealthiest and the poorest is irrelevant and has no negative impact at all?
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