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Old 12-03-2013, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Well to everyone who posted in this thread I say, Merry Christmas and a happy new year!!!!!

 
Old 12-03-2013, 05:25 PM
 
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Again, if it isn't too much trouble, or beyond your capacity ... think, will you?
The store owner could have just accepted his well wishes, and gone on with his day. Instead he made a point to point out that HE said Merry Christmas.

There are several holidayS in the winter season. If this was before Thanksgiving, there is Thanksgiving, Christmas (or other religious holiday) and new years. So there is nothing obvious. The person could have meant nothing more than happy holidays (thanksgiving, christmas, and new years) .
By INSISTING that people say merry Christmas, you are no better than those INSISTING that people say happy holidays. Each person should say what they choose, that is the beauty of freedom of speech.

Seriously. Why go twisting yourself out of shape to be offended. Accept the well wishes, and go on about your day.
Me twist? Boy, you're twisting youself into the ground here. The "happy holiday" person ADMITTED that they purposely avoided saying merry christmas because they aren't christian, as if one needed to be in order to use the phrase. This was a tacit confession that they find the phrase distasteful, just as they apparently view christianity, since they've obviously given thought to the CONSCIOUS DECISION to not use the phrase.

On the other hand, the shop owner probably is like a lot of Americans who are getting tired of th PC BS from some, and the hostility from others over what has traditionally been a joyous holiday marked by good will that is obviously NOT SHARED by those who are allergic to christmas trees, manger scenes, santa-frickin-clause, and anything wholesome and happy.

That would be fine, IF it were not for the fact that it is this very mindset, and the people who hold such negativity that are ever busy trying to prevent others from expressing their freedoms, buy attempting to ban all such symbolism ... including the spoken words of merry christmas, from public view.

Yet there you are with your Orwellian nonsense about Christians needing to chill out, and live and let live?

You're logic is enough to send Sigmund Freud over the edge trying to make sense of it..
 
Old 12-03-2013, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Me twist? Boy, you're twisting youself into the ground here. The "happy holiday" person ADMITTED that they purposely avoided saying merry christmas because they aren't christian, as if one needed to be in order to use the phrase. This was a tacit confession that they find the phrase distasteful, just as they apparently view christianity, since they've obviously given thought to the CONSCIOUS DECISION to not use the phrase.

On the other hand, the shop owner probably is like a lot of Americans who are getting tired of th PC BS from some, and the hostility from others over what has traditionally been a joyous holiday marked by good will that is obviously NOT SHARED by those who are allergic to christmas trees, manger scenes, santa-frickin-clause, and anything wholesome and happy.

That would be fine, IF it were not for the fact that it is this very mindset, and the people who hold such negativity that are ever busy trying to prevent others from expressing their freedoms, buy attempting to ban all such symbolism ... including the spoken words of merry christmas, from public view.

Yet there you are with your Orwellian nonsense about Christians needing to chill out, and live and let live?

You're logic is enough to send Sigmund Freud over the edge trying to make sense of it..
The poster said happy holidays. The store owner could have accepted his well wishes, and gone on with his day, but he didn't. He had to make a simple holiday greeting a political issue. The poster can say what ever he chooses, just like the owner can say whatever he chooses. The poster didn't rail on about having to hear merry christmas. He simply responded to it with happy holidays. If anyone has a problem with people saying either merry christmas OR happy holidays, that is their problem.

I don't care what YOU choose to say. I don't care what ANYONE chooses to say. I say what I want. If you or anyone else has an issue with that, that is their problem.
 
Old 12-03-2013, 07:55 PM
 
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You see it that way, so do I and so did most of us for generations. I don't think, as a child or a young person we ever thought about "Merry Christmas" is a religious way, it was a happy and fun time of the year. yes, in our homes and in our churches, and yes, our schools, we did talk about and sing religious songs, but just saying Merry Christmas didn't mean anything. We have several Jewish friends, as well as our son in law. They all love Christmas. Not for religious reasons, but it is a day for a wonderful family gathering. I have never heard any of them show any concerns about hearing Merry Christmas.
If you haven't yet noticed the lying and double talking, just know that you will never get an honest straight answer from the element we're dealing with here ... the "who is taking christmas away, blah, blah, blah". Of course Christmas and all things Christian are, and have been under constant assault for many years. This is a common warfare tactic ... we aren't attacting you (as soldiers continue to fire away). And this is the prominent tactiv of the left "no body is after your guns ...." and "nobody is trying to take christmas away", as they will go so far as to sue a school if they dare allow the kiddies to bring in Christmas cookies ..

Lying, coniving, scamming double talking wolves in sheep's clothing, and of course, how un-christain to point out the little demons, dontcha know !

While no effort is spared to remove the word "god" from the pledge of allegience, to the dollar bill ... as laws are sought to prohibit manger scenes and christmas trees ... as Santa Claus is in the crosshairs evey bit as much as the American family, and family values have been thusly targeted ... anything remotely connected with the concept of good values ... anything that hints of a moral message, is subject to attack.

The war between good and evil is still going strong.
 
Old 12-03-2013, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Me twist? Boy, you're twisting youself into the ground here. The "happy holiday" person ADMITTED that they purposely avoided saying merry christmas because they aren't christian, as if one needed to be in order to use the phrase. This was a tacit confession that they find the phrase distasteful, just as they apparently view christianity, since they've obviously given thought to the CONSCIOUS DECISION to not use the phrase.

On the other hand, the shop owner probably is like a lot of Americans who are getting tired of th PC BS from some, and the hostility from others over what has traditionally been a joyous holiday marked by good will that is obviously NOT SHARED by those who are allergic to christmas trees, manger scenes, santa-frickin-clause, and anything wholesome and happy.

That would be fine, IF it were not for the fact that it is this very mindset, and the people who hold such negativity that are ever busy trying to prevent others from expressing their freedoms, buy attempting to ban all such symbolism ... including the spoken words of merry christmas, from public view.

Yet there you are with your Orwellian nonsense about Christians needing to chill out, and live and let live?

You're logic is enough to send Sigmund Freud over the edge trying to make sense of it..
That was the person's choice and there is nothing wrong with saying "happy holidays" if one doesn't want to say "happy christmas."
 
Old 12-03-2013, 08:14 PM
 
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"Tis the season to be jolly...."

Alas, on this thread, the next line is much better suited: "la la la la la la la la lah"
 
Old 12-03-2013, 08:26 PM
 
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That was the person's choice and there is nothing wrong with saying "happy holidays" if one doesn't want to say "happy christmas."
It is not the words that are important, and I don't know if this coy act is an act or not. But the point is the mindset behind the aversion to a simple words "merry christmas". There is a passive agressive message underlying the conscious choice to avoid using the words. So save the coy "poor little ole me didn't mean anything " crap ... you people can't be honest about anything, can you?

The contrast to this contrarian mindset would be a Christian person saying happy chanukkah to a person he knew was Jewish. It's just simple courtesy and good manners, and small gestures like this, as well as the aversion to it, speaks volumes about a person's true character.
 
Old 12-03-2013, 08:30 PM
 
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Any atheists on here get offended when someone, knowing you are an atheist, wishes you a Merry Christmas?
 
Old 12-03-2013, 08:30 PM
 
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While no effort is spared to remove the word "god" from the pledge of allegience, to the dollar bill ... as laws are sought to prohibit manger scenes and christmas trees ... as Santa Claus is in the crosshairs evey bit as much as the American family, and family values have been thusly targeted ... anything remotely connected with the concept of good values ... anything that hints of a moral message, is subject to attack.

The war between good and evil is still going strong.
I always thought most Americans were in favor of (if not devoted to) upholding our Constitution. I am utterly amazed when people are in favor of ignoring or abolishing part of it because it affects THEIR religion.

I am equally amazed when I read that some people believe that being exposed to Christian symbols automatically makes you a moral/ethical/good person while not being a Christian, apparently, makes you a depraved soul fighting for the forces of evil.

What an incredibly sad statement.
 
Old 12-03-2013, 08:42 PM
 
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Any atheists on here get offended when someone, knowing you are an atheist, wishes you a Merry Christmas?
Nope. But it does get annoying hearing it on or before Thanksgiving. Christmas is 1 day, not all of December, and part of November. It was creeping in starting in October this year. Before long We'll be hearing Merry Christmas starting in February.
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