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Old 12-04-2013, 09:13 PM
 
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Really?

You might want to tell that to Mary Landrieu (D-LA), Mark Begich (D-AK), Mark Pryor (D-AR), Kay Hagan (D-NC) Jeff Berkley (D-OR), Al Franken (D-MN) and Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH). I'm betting all 7 and then some get kicked out of the Senate next year. They could use a hug from a koolaid drinker like you.
I think you're ignoring the issue of why your party can't win the Presidency. You have to pick a far right wing, religious extremist to win the primaries, but such a candidate cannot win with independents in the General Election. You just don't have the target demographic to win big elections with the way our system works.
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:15 PM
 
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Tell us exactly what (be specific, with examples) is "hard right"?
Santorum and Bachmann would be hard right. Nutcase religious extremists with far too much emphasis on social issues. Great for the Fundamentalist/Evangelical voting base. Absolutely terrible for the people that actually put you in the White House.
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:20 PM
 
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I think you're ignoring the issue of why your party can't win the Presidency. You have to pick a far right wing, religious extremist to win the primaries, but such a candidate cannot win with independents in the General Election. You just don't have the target demographic to win big elections with the way our system works.
Don't be so certain: if the election between Romney and Obama was now rather than last year, the results would have been different.

Further, the wedge between them was 4%, that's just 2% of the population voting (although granted in the end the electoral college rather than the popular vote decides). The parties are fairly evenly matched, with the Democrats having an edge in Presidential years and the Republicans in midterm years, but the candidates, timing, and national context mean it's a mistake to count out either party.
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:22 PM
 
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Enemies of America must love to see us eating our own...

... and no it doesn't matter which side does the eating.
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:24 PM
 
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Berkley? you really think you're going to take Oregon? I dont think that ones likely. the others maybe, but Berkly losing would be a surprise
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Old 12-05-2013, 12:40 AM
 
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Santorum and Bachmann would be hard right. Nutcase religious extremists with far too much emphasis on social issues. Great for the Fundamentalist/Evangelical voting base. Absolutely terrible for the people that actually put you in the White House.
Neither of whom made it out of the primary.
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:53 AM
 
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I think you're ignoring the issue of why your party can't win the Presidency. You have to pick a far right wing, religious extremist to win the primaries, but such a candidate cannot win with independents in the General Election. You just don't have the target demographic to win big elections with the way our system works.
McCain and Romney were not "far right, religious extremists," no matter how many times you repeat that DNC propaganda.

If anyone was overly religious, it was George W. Bush, and he kicked the Demcrats' ass twice, in the not too distant past.
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:11 AM
 
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McCain and Romney were not "far right, religious extremists," no matter how many times you repeat that DNC propaganda.

If anyone was overly religious, it was George W. Bush, and he kicked the Demcrats' ass twice, in the not too distant past.
Do you forget who they chose as running mates? One was an Evangelical end times nitwit and the other an Ayn Rand worshipping scorched earth hypocrite.
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:30 AM
 
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...I am clearly voting Republican for the rest of my life, and support their entire platform.

Obviously.
Republicans are no different from Democrats. They're both the same. I predict more people will eventually lose faith in the US government.
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:33 AM
 
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Really?

You might want to tell that to Mary Landrieu (D-LA), Mark Begich (D-AK), Mark Pryor (D-AR), Kay Hagan (D-NC) Jeff Berkley (D-OR), Al Franken (D-MN) and Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH). I'm betting all 7 and then some get kicked out of the Senate next year. They could use a hug from a koolaid drinker like you.
I'll bet that not all seven will lose next year.

Name your wager.

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