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Old 12-25-2013, 11:36 AM
 
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Well, if we want to get right down to the nitty gritty details, if it weren't for the white man, the "melanin deficient" might not be living the good life here in the United States. History is sometimes ugly, but that's the truth. Leave Santa alone.
Yeah, the "melanin deficient" haven't really accomplished much have they?

The problem is that our intelligence has affected every human on the planet, and ruined many cultures. Too much too fast has always been the white, European's problem.

We have solved a lot of problems of the world, given humanity the modern, western society with all the technology but at the same time we have caused a lot of pain.

But imagine what would happen to the US if we all went back to Europe.
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Old 12-25-2013, 12:03 PM
 
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Our holiday should resemble our people.

It's not like we have a white chaka zulu
LMAO..what in the hell are you talking about?
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Yeah, the "melanin deficient" haven't really accomplished much have they?

The problem is that our intelligence has affected every human on the planet, and ruined many cultures. Too much too fast has always been the white, European's problem.

We have solved a lot of problems of the world, given humanity the modern, western society with all the technology but at the same time we have caused a lot of pain.

But imagine what would happen to the US if we all went back to Europe.
Europe would be an overcrowded mess, that's for sure.

And the United States would become a very desolate place.

Oh well..that's enough imagining.
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Old 12-25-2013, 12:26 PM
 
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Well in all honesty, if you want to be PC Santa should be bi-racial. But that would still offend non bi-racial people so nevermind...

Anyway, all the smart people know Santa is really an alien. Wait, now I just got all the anti illegal immigration folks in an uproar. They will question his status. Dammit I just can't win.
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Old 12-25-2013, 06:47 PM
 
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Well in all honesty, if you want to be PC Santa should be bi-racial. But that would still offend non bi-racial people so nevermind...

Anyway, all the smart people know Santa is really an alien. Wait, now I just got all the anti illegal immigration folks in an uproar. They will question his status. Dammit I just can't win.
Most of our Santa Claus tradition came from Germany. Enough of this stupid debate.
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Old 12-25-2013, 09:58 PM
 
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I've never had any insecurity on being a Black man. I never believed believing in Santa was anything different than believing that Bugs Bunny was coming to dinner. If a child wants to dress up as Santa and they are Black, let them! If someone want to believe in a Chinese Santa, let them.. Its time to move past racialist thinking and let people be.
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Old 12-25-2013, 10:03 PM
 
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I've never had any insecurity on being a Black man. I never believed believing in Santa was anything different than believing that Bugs Bunny was coming to dinner. If a child wants to dress up as Santa and they are Black, let them! If someone want to believe in a Chinese Santa, let them.. Its time to move past racialist thinking and let people be.
I don't know what the big deal is either. When i was dumb enough to actually believe in Santa, i didn't really care what his race was as long as he was bringing some gifts.

Most kids feel that way.

This wouldn't even be a controversy if people didn't make such a big deal about the holiday in the first place.
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Old 12-26-2013, 12:31 PM
 
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The tale of Santa is European, making him "white." At the same time, I don't see an issue with having Santas of other backgrounds.

Jesus really should not be classified by race, as those classification truly originated with the disgustingly sinful efforts of European scientists. They have polluted the world. A description of Jesus is given in the Scriptures.

But if it must be discussed, I'll have to agree with this individual here...

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Now, even if Megyn knew that the Nazareth and Bethlehem we associate with Jesus were halfway across the world, she still could have thought he was white. After all, the United States government defines white people as “original peoples of Europe, North Africa, or the Middle East.” That would make Jesus white, except for the fact that he would not be the kind of white person that Megyn Kelly meant. In other words, I don’t think Megyn Kelly would consider my dad white, or Paula Abdul white, or Ahmed Ahmed white. But Jesus would look much more like any of those people than he would like her.

So Jesus wasn’t white. He didn’t look like Brad Pitt. He looked like Tony Shalhoub. He looked less like the pilgrims, and more like the people the pilgrims stole land from. He was not a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. He was an Olive Semitic Nazarene Jew.

If Jesus were here today, he would be exactly the kind of guy that most Fox News anchors would be in favor of racially profiling. He would be on the No Fly List (my editor is making me point out that Jon Stewart made a similar joke), not that Jesus needs a plane to fly, but whatever.

And by the way Megyn, if Jesus were here today, he wouldn’t be a Tea Partier or a Republican. In fact, he wouldn’t even be a political conservative. He would believe in his own mantra of “that which you do to the least of my brethren, you do to me.” He would be upset that we spend more money on building monuments to him than we do on feeding our poor. He would be dismayed that we are supporting repressive governments to serve our interests. And he would be disappointed that we spend four times as much on our military than we do on educating our children.

After much criticism of her comments, Megyn Kelly responded with the “I was just joking” defense. “Humor is part of what we try to bring to the show. Sometimes that’s lost on the humorless,” she said of her declaration of Santa’s whiteness. But Megyn is making the same mistake many young comedians make early in their careers. See, a “joke” is a “joke” because it’s “funny.” And you don’t decide if it’s funny, your audience does. Megyn, what you said wasn’t funny. Well, we were laughing, but it wasn’t because you were trying to be funny.

As far as Jesus goes, Kelly did admit that it had been wrong for her to proclaim Jesus’ whiteness. Jesus’ race is “far from settled,” she acknowledged. She couldn’t bring herself to say he wasn’t white.

Megyn, please listen to me. Jesus’ origins are not “far from settled.” He was not white. He was from Palestine, not North Carolina. He was from where I am from, not where you are from. He fought against injustice and inequality. He was from my world, not yours.

White people can have the old, fat, white fantasy figure. But we’ll keep the olive-skinned, liberal, generous, charitable freedom fighter. We know much better what to do with him.

Excellent.

Read more: Jesus Wasn’t White, But Santa Definitely Is | TIME.com Jesus Wasn’t White, But Santa Definitely Is | TIME.com
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Old 12-26-2013, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Santa should be whatever color you want Santa to be, he is a fictional character after all.
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Old 12-26-2013, 12:40 PM
 
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Looks like he has brown skin to me.



Saint Nicholas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:31 PM
 
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Kelly never talked about Jesus, just Santa, and since he was thought up (at least the way he looked and put in books, not the saint) he was portrayed as white.

But if you want a black Santa or any other color I am ok with that. Just don't get your self esteem hurt when you see a white Santa or any other color Santa.
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