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Old 12-19-2013, 11:20 PM
 
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This thread is about gay marriage being made legal in New Mexico.

You can't on the one hand argue that this is a "civil rights" issue, then ignore a challenge to prove the existence of the only criteria that would qualify this as a civil rights issue, let alone dismiss such a question as "off-topic".

Quit running and start defending your position.
Except that what you're characterizing as the "only criteria" is in fact not a criterion at all.

 
Old 12-19-2013, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I was born gay. Are you saying I'm not?
How do you know that you were born gay?
 
Old 12-19-2013, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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How do you know that you were born gay?
If you really want to know I will send you a private message. I bet you would enjoy it.
 
Old 12-19-2013, 11:24 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
This thread is about gay marriage being made legal in New Mexico.

You can't on the one hand argue that this is a "civil rights" issue, then ignore a challenge to prove the existence of the only criteria that would qualify this as a civil rights issue, let alone dismiss such a question as "off-topic".

Quit running and start defending your position.

That seems fair, but first...


You're going to have to tell me the exact date you made the conscious decision to be attracted to girls and not boys.

I mean, if homosexuality is not an innate characteristic, then surely you're a living, breathing objective example of this and you can share with all of us precisely how and when you made that rather momentous decision to like girls and not boys.
 
Old 12-19-2013, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Except that what you're characterizing as the "only criteria" is in fact not a criterion at all.
Of course it is.

The comparison of "gay rights" to the civil rights struggles of black Americans is the proof.

Black Americans were enslaved and discriminated against solely based on an inborn trait of which they had no control - skin color.

Gay marriage advocates claim that gays should marry because they "have no control" over their sexual preference.

For that to be true, homosexuality must be an inborn trait.

So which is it?
 
Old 12-19-2013, 11:24 PM
 
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Um actually it does. You twisted the meaning of marriage, man and woman, to something perverse. In no way shape or form does two fem dudes and two pats equal man and woman. Never has, never will. So because some homos feel left out and feel bad, we have to change the meaning of things to suit them apparently. Ridiculous.
For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there.
 
Old 12-19-2013, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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That seems fair, but first...


You're going to have to tell me the exact date you made the conscious decision to be attracted girls and not boys.

I mean, if homosexuality is not an innate characteristic, then surely you're a living, breathing objective example of this and you can share with all of us precisely how and when you made that rather momentous decision to like girls and not boys.
Harrier doesn't know the exact date, but it would have been sometime around 12-14, and the onset of puberty.
 
Old 12-19-2013, 11:27 PM
 
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Harrier doesn't know the exact date, but it would have been sometime around 12-14, and the onset of puberty.
But you're sure it was a conscious decision. You just weren't naturally attracted to girls, you had to think about it and decide to be. And yet, in spite of this clearly life-changing decision, you can't pinpoint when it happened, only provide a range of years in which it might of occurred.
 
Old 12-19-2013, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Harrier doesn't know the exact date, but it would have been sometime around 12-14, and the onset of puberty.
So you were like 12 before you knew you were into chicks?
 
Old 12-19-2013, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by Votre_Chef View Post
But you're sure it was a conscious decision. You just weren't naturally attracted to girls, you had to think about it and decide to be. And yet, in spite of this clearly life-changing decision, you can't pinpoint when it happened, only provide a range of years in which it might of occurred.
Harrier chose to be attracted to girls, thus he clearly chose to not be attracted to boys.

Is that so hard to understand?
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