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Old 12-23-2013, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Utica, NY
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As a side note. If you believe that the police are there to protect you, you need to rethink that. The police are there to write a report and investigate a crime after the crime has been committed. It is rare when the police arrive in time to prevent a crime. There is an old saying. "when seconds count, the police are only minutes away". The police are NOT there to protect you.
Like I said, I have no problem with gun ownership at home
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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That's the point after all. Who knows what would have happened if some trigger happy cowboy was present. He draws, the badguy shoots, other guy shoots, somebody in the middle gets hit.
You can what if things to death, but you can't point out examples of where that happens.. For every bad shoot you can find, I guarantee you I can find 20 good shoots. People that carry firearms in their person legally do so with a great deal of respect for their responsibility. Most have had to undergo training to know when and where it is appropriate to use deadly force. It's not the wild west for crying out loud.
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Are you sure you're the best source on this issue? You live in Alaska where everybody knows everybody else is armed, lol.
I once met an Alaskan many years ago that only had three firearms. Can you believe that? Only THREE!
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Utica, NY
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But they did not go wrong. Don't you think that the ones that went wrong would be all over the news?

Many of those stories are not at homes. Many are at businesses.
Re read my post. They could have easily gone wrong. Who knows of the robbers have accomplices waiting or maybe they're quicker to the draw than you are. Money is not worth dying over or risking the lives of others for.
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:14 PM
 
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You can what if things to death, but you can't point out examples of where that happens.. For every bad shoot you can find, I guarantee you I can find 20 good shoots. People that carry firearms in their person legally do so with a great deal of respect for their responsibility. Most have had to undergo training to know when and where it is appropriate to use deadly force. It's not the wild west for crying out loud.
But you do have situations where people shoot first and question later. Responsible gun owners should want this guy held accountable for his actions.

Gunman claims he shot unarmed Renisha McBride by accident: report - Daily News
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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I once met an Alaskan many years ago that only had three firearms. Can you believe that? Only THREE!
My question would be had he lived there over 2 days?
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Utica, NY
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You would rather have those people injured or killed?
If you get involved in trying to stop a robbery you run that risk anyway. A shootout could turn a robbery where only money is stolen and no one gets hurt into a blood bath.
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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But you do have situations where people shoot first and question later. Responsible gun owners should want this guy held accountable for his actions.

Gunman claims he shot unarmed Renisha McBride by accident: report - Daily News
As I said in an earlier post. The police are there to investigate and file a report. If this shooting is ruled to be a homicide or a manslaughter, charges will be brought against the defendant. If it is found to be and he is found guilty then he should be charged, but the example you just posted has nothing to do with carrying a firearm in the public. This man was in his home. You could probably have found a better example to make your case, but when you do, get ready for an avalanche of instances where someone properly used a firearm to stop a criminal in a legal shoot.
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:21 PM
 
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Thank you.. This is one of the points I've been trying to make except my point has been lost from all the squabbling and pro-gun stuff. Apparently it is wrong of me to say that I don't agree with guns being carried around in public.
Please quote someone saying it's wrong for you to not agree with guns being carried in public?
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:23 PM
 
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As I said in an earlier post. The police are there to investigate and file a report. If this shooting is ruled to be a homicide or a manslaughter, charges will be brought against the defendant. If it is found to be and he is found guilty then he should be charged, but the example you just posted has nothing to do with carrying a firearm in the public. This man was in his home. You could probably have found a better example to make your case, but when you do, get ready for an avalanche of instances where someone properly used a firearm to stop a criminal in a legal shoot.
I have no problem with lawful legitimate defense, but you cant gloss over glaring wrongs.

N.C. cop who shot unarmed ex-football player 10 times*charged with manslaughter - Daily News
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