168,367 Indian nationals received H1B (work) visa in 2012 (lawyers, lobbyists, lobby)
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Don't know what I think about this when so many Americans can't find work.
In a good economy, the more the merrier. I'm very pro-immigration. But in a bad economy like we have now this is just a way for employers to be lazy by not having to teach new skills and it leave millions of Americans in the dust. How can we expect people to find work if we just import immigrants?
Don't know what I think about this when so many Americans can't find work.
In a good economy, the more the merrier. I'm very pro-immigration. But in a bad economy like we have now this is just a way for employers to be lazy by not having to teach new skills and it leave millions of Americans in the dust. How can we expect people to find work if we just import immigrants?
Who's is "we" ?
It's certainly not the Federal Government who make the immigration rules.
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Jobs that apparently no unemployed American wanted.
I hope you know these are jobs that are not alot of Americans qualify. There is lack of candidates on the fields (STEM fields) because most Americans prefer go to college for Humanity, English, etc.
I know this because as a senior engineer I help to recruit fresh candidate in my company.
Do they get paid less than their fellow Americans? Nope.
USCIS has regulations that basically ensure that these workers get the same amount of salaries that their American counterparts get.
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There are some misunderstandings:
(1) H1B visa requires that the salary is no less than the average. i.e. If a company hires a software engineer for $30k, it won't be approved. It has to be $60k at least. The federal government controls it.
(2) Many H1B visa holders have a US degree. The law says those who have a US degree should be preferred.
I agree with this.
For once we agree on something, Betta! :P
No, you cannot take a two week course in a language and then get hired as a coder in that language. And no, coders are not entry level jobs. I know many coders who have been coding for well over 20 years. Having said that, most of the H1B workers are coders.
Coders are one of the lowest rungs on the IT ladder. Yes you can take a one week course and get hired to code IF you already have an IT background. I took a one week ColdFusion class before taking an assignment because that is the tool used on that project. I did not mean you can just take a class without previous industry experience. I got off the coding treadmill years ago and moved to change management.
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There are all kinds of people in America who could be trained for those jobs. And a lot of the Indian H1Bs don't know what the hell they're doing either.
In order for you to get H1B, you need to get graduate degree and sometimes (most likely) graduate degree. So "training" or "technical school" does not qualify for such jobs. The question now: do Americans want to go to college majoring in STEM? Alot of them don't have the capacity. They opt to easier majors like English or humanities.
Define "founded" google, intel and ebay and yahoo and I'm not sure you understand the difference between HB1 visa and those who came here like when they were 10 or when their parents moved here!! They also had CO founder AMERICANS!! you know the country that promotes capitalism for the exception of maybe google. Nothing wrong with immigration and being an American citizen I can assure you these founders were Americans not Hb1 visa imports.
For a lot of top talent in US the H1B visa was the first step towards green card, and citizenship. I know personally know many such people.
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How about we let them come here and live here and they apply for US citizen ship.
Just remove the Hb1 status and pay them normal US economic prices lets see how that works for US companies because for them its about cutting labor costs just like if we shipped in Mexicans do to all the fast food work and removed every other American and paid them all min wage including the store managers and district managers to save money
In order for you to get H1B, you need to get graduate degree and sometimes (most likely) graduate degree. So "training" or "technical school" does not qualify for such jobs. The question now: do Americans want to go to college majoring in STEM? Alot of them don't have the capacity. They opt to easier majors like English or humanities.
This is not true and is a myth, there is no shortage of STEM majors in the U.S. I actually know quite a few people with STEM backgrounds that are unemployed or underemployed. Employers are using the H1B system to pay cheaper salaries.
This is not true and is a myth, there is no shortage of STEM majors in the U.S. I actually know quite a few people with STEM backgrounds that are unemployed or underemployed. Employers are using the H1B system to pay cheaper salaries.
STEM includes many things. Biology majors always have difficulties, but it is not the same as computer science majors.
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