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Old 01-20-2014, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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So jobs havent been offshored?
What minimum wage jobs can be "offshored?" Hotel housekeepers? Nursing home assistants? Fast food workers? Cashiers and retail workers?

 
Old 01-20-2014, 06:35 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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Originally Posted by I'm Retired Now View Post
FEW AMERICANS MAKE THE MINIMUM WAGE.

and

THE MINIMUM WAGE WAS NOT MEANT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTING A FAMILY.

These are the flawed arguments many people make when they tell us the minimum wage at $7.25 an hour is just fine where it is.
Less than 6% of Americans work for minimum wage. So how is that a flawed argument?

The lowest paying jobs aren't meant to support a family. How is that a flawed statement?


The flawed argument is the notion that you can increase the lowest pay to some arbitrary number and think it's going to solve the problem. The problem is that there are too many people willing to work entry level jobs, and are content to stay there.

If the minimum wage is raised, there better be a motivation clause.

A minimum wage slug will still be a slug no matter how much they're paid.
 
Old 01-20-2014, 06:36 PM
 
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What minimum wage jobs can be "offshored?" Hotel housekeepers? Nursing home assistants? Fast food workers? Cashiers and retail workers?
Raising minimum wage affects more than just minimum wage jobs..
 
Old 01-20-2014, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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So it won't cause any job loss???!!!
Nope. Increasing minimum wage increases spending. Increased spending increases demand for services and products. Increased demand for services and products increases jobs.
 
Old 01-20-2014, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
Raising minimum wage affects more than just minimum wage jobs..

How so? And what jobs would become offshored?
 
Old 01-20-2014, 06:39 PM
 
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How so? And what jobs would become offshored?
When manufacturing jobs get offshored, this unemploys millions of individuals who must now go out and look for work, and oftentimes the only thing left is minimum wage jobs, thus making it more difficult for everyone to find work.

You increase minimum wage, cost of burgers, and lots of other things go up, which affects EVERYONE, so that $15 an hour you were making before, is now worth less because everythign costs more..

We dont live in fairy land, where the costs can just be made up by imagining money is there that isnt.
 
Old 01-20-2014, 06:41 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Nope. Increasing minimum wage increases spending. Increased spending increases demand for services and products. Increased demand for services and products increases jobs.
You left out the most important part of your equation....... It increases the cost of those goods and you're back where you start.

It's called the inflation spiral.
 
Old 01-20-2014, 06:42 PM
 
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Nope. Increasing minimum wage increases spending. Increased spending increases demand for services and products. Increased demand for services and products increases jobs.
My goodness!!!
 
Old 01-20-2014, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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No it wouldnt, it would just raise the cost of things like food, housing, etc, and thus increase the standards for assistance.

Thats like saying we dont need welfare anymore because we raised the minimum wage over how many years.. Ridiculous
And what does this have to do with my post?
 
Old 01-20-2014, 06:43 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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Originally Posted by swagger
Thank you!


Which ones are pretending?

Tell you what. If you're willing to come to Las Vegas (who doesn't want to visit Vegas??) and sign a non-disclosure agreement, I'm willing to give you a tour of my office, show you our articles of incorporation which lists me as an owner and even buy you a beer. Let me know...

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Originally Posted by urbanlife78 View Post
I would love to have a tour of your "business" and any other "business" you cons claim to be all owners of. Or as I like to say, unemployed people pretending to be in business for themselves.
You know what they say about assumptions.

The fact that you suggest that "cons" are somehow pretending to be business owners says loads about your critical thinking skills. I happen to know swagger, and he runs quite a successful business that took he and his wife years to build from scratch.

The only thing that separates most of us (besides age and experience) is our political leanings. You have taken the premise of what makes us different to an entirely new level. Epic fail on your part.
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