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Obama could be doing as bad as right-wingers claim (he isn't, not even close) and I still wouldn't regret voting for him twice. In favor of a Republican?! Good one.
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That's the problem, no I the White house of the Dems even consider tax reform. Romney's plan would of gave me more spending power. You know the Middle guy just trying to support his fam.
Left and Democrats attacks the rich, but fails to understand that the "so called" rich make investments that put people to work.
Hell I wish I had several home around the country!
Burden for others? that is a good one too. 47percent pay taxes that support the 53 percent. The rich in some cases pay 60=70 percent to the IRS.:thi nk:
And yeah, Obama care has been a failure. He just appeases the minority in this country: the poor & homosexual. If I flew in from outer space, I would have no idea the USA is involved in two foreign Wars.
If you get behind the manure wagon of "Progressivism," why are you surprised when you find out what's in it?
Just how does the big corporations run the country?????.. doesn't the government regulate big business.. Oh yes, big business will lobby , which I think is just bribes and our elected officials including Obama take the bribes . If they didn't take the bribes , big business has NO INFLUENCE..
If a police officer takes bribe money they are dirtier than the one giving the bribe.. if one cannot be bribed, they have all the power.. the elected officials have that power to be bribed or not.
in case you haven't noticed, everything has gone global, not much is still produced in the U.S. so does that answer your question?
The President cannot create jobs....period!
What Washington now does is cater to the Word Trade Orgainization, which is made up of rich corporate owners from all over the world....
and yes, they are paid off for doing what the corporations want...that is why presently Cristie is being sabotaged, b/c Christie doesn't filter anything, he says what he is thinking and the WTO doesn't like that, so, he is probably being sabatoged, b/c he won't play ball.
Yes, he has changed since he took office, and yes, it is possible he to has not become tainted and corrupt, as I can't see how you couldn't be...however, the news media is making way to much of it...b/c they want Hillary in...she will be their next puppet, and it will be interesting to see, exactly what happens within the confines of the republican party, as far as who they cough up to run...Romney was a patsy, b/c they wanted Obama back in there....
I didn't support Obama in 2008 but voted for him anyway because I thought McCain was borderline mentally ill. Though Obama is a little worse than I expected, I don't regret the vote against McCain.
Anarchist is a strong word but I've exposed some loudmouth right-wingers on this board as being anarchists at heart, and the more extreme Tea Party and Libertarian individuals wouldn't disagree with most of its basic tenets.
Anarchy is not a horrible idea on paper, it's basically that the government should be unnoticeable and that the current functions of government should be entirely provided by the community. The fact is that this will cripple our vastly interconnected 21st century economy, and that it's a bad idea to trust people who have the wealth and power to do anything to, out of the goodness of their hearts, solely do what's right for the community.
But no, I don't think that, in deadlock over some debate, the default action should be nothing. Then, a small number of people, elected by a small fraction of the public, who want the government to do nothing know they can dig their heels in and win by default.
The problem is that what is being proposed today, not only by the President, but by Democrats in Congress, is not for the "common good," but is harmful to, and destructive of rights and Liberty. It should be opposed by all available means. Thus, doing nothing is preferred over any compromise which still leaves the Republic harmed in any manner, and tramples Liberty, and the rights of the people.
I know many 'Tea Party' supporters (I identify with the 'Tea Party' myself). They are ordinary people with families, many still with children at home, who have good jobs and go to work every day, who want the best for their familes, and they wish to see our American system of government preserved, not altered, as the "Progressives" want to do.
Never on the face of the earth has there ever been devised by man a better system of government than the American system of government by the consent of the governed, our Representative Republic, as founded.
"Progressives" believe it is outdated, and must be changed or must "evolve" based on new circumstances, and our modern era, which presents new problems which the founders did not imagine and could not have known. That is the premise of "progressivism." It is a false premise.
The Declaration, together with the Constitution, transcend time and place. They are not applicable to only that era. Indeed, the Declaration states, "When in the course of human events ... " That means "at any time in history." This establishes the timelessness of what follows. "We hold these truths to be self evident ... " These things are always true, they are self evident, and apply to all men for all time.
Finally, I'm sick of hearing people today refer to the 21st century as though it is so different from past centuries that we need to adjust our thinking on any and every problem. The nature of man has not changed. Man is as he always was. The only thing that has changed is our technologies and perhaps our education, (though this might be debatable). We are just as corruptible, and just as capable of injustice and evil toward oneanother as in any past period of history. This is why we still need checks and balances on government (Woodrow Wilson, a progressive, argued that these things might actually be a roadblock to "progress" — as "Progressives" define it).
Government exists to secure our rights and Liberty. But government must be controlled, which is why the founders established a system of checks and balances. Thus, at times, we may have what we have come to call "grid lock." That isn't a bad thing, if it is necessary to preserve the integrity of the Constitution and Liberty.
The tea party is not your usual Political Group. Its citizens loosely joining together. Just the ideal of Conservatives coming together utters fear in the Back Rooms of the White House and Harry Reid's Office
The tea party is not old timer politicians. It amazes me that Obama got elected because he said he would "change" things but when he didn't and proved worse and the tea party stands up to him the very people who voted for change attack them. At least we could say the liberal media (obamas propaganda machine) is doing their job.
The problem is that what is being proposed today, not only by the President, but by Democrats in Congress, is not for the "common good," but is harmful to, and destructive of rights and Liberty. It should be opposed by all available means. Thus, doing nothing is preferred over any compromise which still leaves the Republic harmed in any manner, and tramples Liberty, and the rights of the people.
I know many 'Tea Party' supporters (I identify with the 'Tea Party' myself). They are ordinary people with families, many still with children at home, who have good jobs and go to work every day, who want the best for their familes, and they wish to see our American system of government preserved, not altered, as the "Progressives" want to do.
Never on the face of the earth has there ever been devised by man a better system of government than the American system of government by the consent of the governed, our Representative Republic, as founded.
"Progressives" believe it is outdated, and must be changed or must "evolve" based on new circumstances, and our modern era, which presents new problems which the founders did not imagine and could not have known. That is the premise of "progressivism." It is a false premise.
The Declaration, together with the Constitution, transcend time and place. They are not applicable to only that era. Indeed, the Declaration states, "When in the course of human events ... " That means "at any time in history." This establishes the timelessness of what follows. "We hold these truths to be self evident ... " These things are always true, they are self evident, and apply to all men for all time.
Finally, I'm sick of hearing people today refer to the 21st century as though it is so different from past centuries that we need to adjust our thinking on any and every problem. The nature of man has not changed. Man is as he always was. The only thing that has changed is our technologies and perhaps our education, (though this might be debatable). We are just as corruptible, and just as capable of injustice and evil toward oneanother as in any past period of history. This is why we still need checks and balances on government (Woodrow Wilson, a progressive, argued that these things might actually be a roadblock to "progress" — as "Progressives" define it).
Government exists to secure our rights and Liberty. But government must be controlled, which is why the founders established a system of checks and balances. Thus, at times, we may have what we have come to call "grid lock." That isn't a bad thing, if it is necessary to preserve the integrity of the Constitution and Liberty.
nononsenseguy, excellent post. For anyone who skipped past it because the post is long you should read it. I would like to add that any one person, any one body of people who have too much power will abuse it for their own benefit. The left says that corporations abuse their power over people but don't realize that government is the same thing, they are abusing their power. Today we have government and corporations who have joined forces.
Be dependent and you hand power over your life to that person or body of people.
The tea party is not old timer politicians. It amazes me that Obama got elected because he said he would "change" things but when he didn't and proved worse and the tea party stands up to him the very people who voted for change attack them. At least we could say the liberal media (obamas propaganda machine) is doing their job.
The Tea Party has been co opted by big business and the religious right. The only constitutional argument they have is about guns. The rest is all about deregulation, abolishing government bureaus, and cutting taxes.
The Tea Party had a chance to be about freedom and constitutional law and advocated the end of the drug war, or either Middle Eastern war, or fought for gay rights.
And if that wasn't enough, theyve pulled the entire ****ing country farther to the right, to the point where Obama, a centrist, is labeled as a socialist. It's pure ignorance. If one more person tries to tell me a mandate forcing you to buy private insurance is socialism I'm emigrating.
I think he's done better than McCain would have done, but the surveillance scandal and the Healthcare.gov fiasco are US government at its worst and there are simply no excuses at all for being a greedy power-hungry pig. His nationalized healthcare is a step in the right direction but still not good enough. I give him a D+, though the anarchist crowd in Congress who decided their job would not be to govern but rather to make Obama's life hard all deserve Fs.
That is a lame form of debate, imagining thinks might have been worse had X been president.
We are experiencing an historical level of incompetence, corruption, ineptitude, under Obama, and you think it might have been worse?
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