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Old 07-23-2014, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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That doesn't count supporting businesses. In any manufacturing business, there are some steps that are outsourced. It could be something simple like heat treating to milling complete parts. I'm picking up my latest purchase from my FFL almost a month after buying it. The manufacturer had issues with the company that anodizes their parts which delayed shipments for almost 3 weeks. This is not some small manufacturer, they are an OEM for dozens of gun manufacturers as well as providing aircraft parts to Boeing.
There are companies moving everyday for various reasons, tax breaks in other states, cutting overhead. I am sure there are other businesses and suppliers to Beretta but that is the case for any company. This isn't the first company that moved out of a state because they didn't like the laws. I have to wonder what the average salary is for Beretta, the company that moved out of NY was rather low end with few exceptions, I don't see low wage employees moving to Tennessee.
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Old 07-23-2014, 06:04 PM
 
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There are companies moving everyday for various reasons, tax breaks in other states, cutting overhead. I am sure there are other businesses and suppliers to Beretta but that is the case for any company. This isn't the first company that moved out of a state because they didn't like the laws. I have to wonder what the average salary is for Beretta, the company that moved out of NY was rather low end with few exceptions, I don't see low wage employees moving to Tennessee.
Great spin, how long has Beretta been located there, and they have not had a problem for....how many years? And now all of a sudden they do...


So...show us, laws directly related to their business....not tax laws, not other reasons, but directly related to that companies job...laws that were made and companies moved because it restricted what they did....
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Old 07-23-2014, 06:06 PM
 
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Maryland will be able to survive the loss of 300 employees. Tennessee has lower taxes, cheaper labor but quite the different lifestyle, look at the bright side they will be closer to the Noah's Ark theme Park.
Will those 300 employees be able to survive? Why do you support that?

Do you know for a fact that Beretta will lower their labor rate, because they move to TN?

And what does noah have anything to do with this? Complete failure on your part!!
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Old 07-23-2014, 06:09 PM
 
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Wow it makes sense for Beretta to move but their poor employees. Those folks are highly skilled in the production of firearms now what will they do?
hopefully they will be smart like their employer pack up and leave to a free(ER) State.
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Old 07-23-2014, 06:35 PM
 
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They should make a business decision to move, and then deliberately reduce their sales? That would not only be contradictory, it would be dumb.
they are making a business decision. the laws in the state of maryland are become very restrictive for gun manufacturers, which means that their costs are going to go up, which means they are going to lose firearms sales. moving to tennesse means fewer regulations, which means lower costs, which means they can pay more to maintain the same profit margin. as for their sales, maryland is the one that is restricting sales in the state, not beretta.
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Old 07-23-2014, 06:37 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Good for them!

Now they should stop selling firearms to law enforcement in those states that don't respect the second amendment

Dave


I agree, any state that does not respect the 2nd Amendment for the law abiding citizen, should not only not sell to the LEO's of those states, but also refuse to sell them ammo too.
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Old 07-23-2014, 06:40 PM
 
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Good job governor numbnuts o'malley..

Beretta: Gun law forcing move out of Maryland - US News
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Old 07-23-2014, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Will those 300 employees be able to survive? Why do you support that?

Do you know for a fact that Beretta will lower their labor rate, because they move to TN?

And what does noah have anything to do with this? Complete failure on your part!!
No one is forcing them to go, this is Berettas decision to uproot or set loose employees because they disagree with the state laws. Think about it if they leave or stay it will make not one bit of difference, the state laws of Maryland don't disappear with their departure. So they decided to either make a political statement of a purely business decision to relocate, or maybe both but the only people they are hurting are their own employees.

....and yes the labor rate is lower in TN.

The Noah's statement is part of the culture change the employees of Beretta need to embrace.
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Old 07-23-2014, 07:36 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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No one is forcing them to go, this is Berettas decision to uproot or set loose employees because they disagree with the state laws. Think about it if they leave or stay it will make not one bit of difference, the state laws of Maryland don't disappear with their departure. So they decided to either make a political statement of a purely business decision to relocate, or maybe both but the only people they are hurting are their own employees.

....and yes the labor rate is lower in TN.

The Noah's statement is part of the culture change the employees of Beretta need to embrace.

It would be a stupid business decision not to move if it restricts your bottom dollar.


""the version of the statute that passed the Maryland Senate would have prohibited Beretta U.S.A. from being able to manufacture, store or even import into the State products that we sell to customers throughout the United States and around the world. While we were able in the Maryland House of Delegates to reverse some of those obstructive provisions, the possibility that such restrictions might be reinstated in the future leaves us very worried about the wisdom of maintaining a firearm manufacturing factory in the State,” stated Jeff Cooper, General Manager for Beretta U.S.A. Corp.""
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Old 07-23-2014, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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It would be a stupid business decision not to move if it restricts your bottom dollar.


""the version of the statute that passed the Maryland Senate would have prohibited Beretta U.S.A. from being able to manufacture, store or even import into the State products that we sell to customers throughout the United States and around the world. While we were able in the Maryland House of Delegates to reverse some of those obstructive provisions, the possibility that such restrictions might be reinstated in the future leaves us very worried about the wisdom of maintaining a firearm manufacturing factory in the State,” stated Jeff Cooper, General Manager for Beretta U.S.A. Corp.""
The state laws of Maryland will not change when they leave, how does that constitute a smart business decision.
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