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What good is a store known for great, fresh food moving into your neighborhood if said store moving in prices you out of the neighborhood?
Trader Joe's wasn't going to gentrify anything because the neighborhood gentrified a long time ago. A New Seasons just opened up down the road from this location.
is it ok for nicer areas to fight to keep the 'oppressed population' out?
imagine a group sending a letter to the city saying they would "remain opposed to any development in N/NE Portland that does not primarily benefit the White community."
Also, how in the world did you see any "racism" in ChocLot's post?
What she stated was true, many times lower income people work to improve their neighborhoods then a "cool" "hip" store or business moves in and it attracts people who are higher income. They move in and increase the desirability of a neighborhood and property taxes increase which force out the lower income people who actually made the neighborhood desirable in the first place.
FWIW, many poor white people have been affected by gentrification as have Asians and Hispanics and just about everyone. It is not a white/black thing like you seem to think it is or falsely assume that ChocLot thinks it is.
is it ok for nicer areas to fight to keep the 'oppressed population' out?
imagine a group sending a letter to the city saying they would "remain opposed to any development in N/NE Portland that does not primarily benefit the White community."
how well would that have gone over?
It would have probably gone over poorly. But then again, I am happy this project got shot down.
It would have probably gone over poorly. But then again, I am happy this project got shot down.
damn straight it would have. the shrieks of 'racism!!!' would be reverberating for weeks.
you don't find it interesting that a mirror image of that statement substituting the word 'black' got no reaction at all?
what about the other question? is it ok for wealthier areas to try to keep the 'oppressed population' [their phrase, not mine] out?
That's what folks seem to be missing. They wonder why some blacks don't welcome an improvement in their neighborhoods while ignoring the fact that the improvement usually comes at a cost of having to move and never enjoying that new and improved neighborhood!
Except in this case, that's ridiculous, because Trader Joe's is not expensive. It's relatively cheap.
damn straight it would have. the shrieks of 'racism!!!' would be reverberating for weeks.
you don't find it interesting that a mirror image of that statement substituting the word 'black' got no reaction at all?
what about the other question? is it ok for wealthier areas to try to keep the 'oppressed population' [their phrase, not mine] out?
Who cares, it was a bad development for an inner city neighborhood in Portland. I think the idea that this Trader Joe's was gonna force out the black community is just idiotic, but if it played a part in canceling this project, then I am cool with that.
damn straight it would have. the shrieks of 'racism!!!' would be reverberating for weeks.
you don't find it interesting that a mirror image of that statement substituting the word 'black' got no reaction at all?
what about the other question? is it ok for wealthier areas to try to keep the 'oppressed population' [their phrase, not mine] out?
Of course it is. NIMBY is alive and well.
I've seen "potential traffic problems" and "overcrowded schools" used as the excuse.
Those are PC acceptable at city council meetings on "affordable housing" issues and where to build.
The cost I'm speaking of is not in reference to TJ's groceries.
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the fact that the improvement usually comes at a cost of having to move and never enjoying that new and improved neighborhood!
So what cost are you talking about?
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Wish I could rep you again!
