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Old 02-17-2014, 01:58 PM
 
Location: MD's Eastern Shore
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Personally I think it's long overdue to lift it but when is everybody going to stop blaming the US for Cubas problems. WE have a trade embargo with them, I understand that. But I am also under the impression that Cuba has many other country's it can and does trade with. They also receive tourists from many other country's as well. That country being F'd up can only be blamed from problems within it's own borders, not ours.
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Old 02-17-2014, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Old 02-17-2014, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Old 02-17-2014, 02:07 PM
 
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I love that when you go to the Miami airport they actually have flights to Havana--of course they're only for Cuban-Americans or Cuban emigres to fly back to Cuba to visit family or revisit their homeland. So Cubans in South Florida still push for the embargo, and yet they can fly to Cuba if they want. Hypocrites.

Meanwhile, if I want to visit Cuba, I have to either fly to a secondary country like Mexico or Jamaica or Canada, and then fly into Cuba.(Or now you can pay for an expensive guided tour to go there) I can fly to other countries run by questionable regimes all over the world with not many problems(everywhere from Burma to Zimbabwe to China to Iran), yet supposedly I'm not supposed to fly to Cuba of my own free will to visit.

Lift the damn travel ban. You open a ferry from Key West to Havana(which isn't far) you'd change that country with an influx of American dollars overnight
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Old 02-17-2014, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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I love that when you go to the Miami airport they actually have flights to Havana--of course they're only for Cuban-Americans or Cuban emigres to fly back to Cuba to visit family or revisit their homeland. So Cubans in South Florida still push for the embargo, and yet they can fly to Cuba if they want. Hypocrites.

Meanwhile, if I want to visit Cuba, I have to either fly to a secondary country like Mexico or Jamaica or Canada, and then fly into Cuba.(Or now you can pay for an expensive guided tour to go there) I can fly to other countries run by questionable regimes all over the world with not many problems(everywhere from Burma to Zimbabwe to China to Iran), yet supposedly I'm not supposed to fly to Cuba of my own free will to visit.

Lift the damn travel ban. You open a ferry from Key West to Havana(which isn't far) you'd change that country with an influx of American dollars overnight
That's why a lot of tourists from other countries support the embargo.
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Old 02-17-2014, 02:26 PM
 
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That's why a lot of tourists from other countries support the embargo.
Yeah, it might not be for the better in some regards... That's why some Americans I know have gone to Cuba in the last five years--just to see it in case US travel opens up and changes from what it was. Though there's already a huge package tourist/all-inclusive industry in Cuba though--the government steers tourism to places like the Cancun-lite Varadero. There's already a massive tourist industry in Cuba, I believe it's their biggest source of income at this point.

I've met people who've gone to Cuba who found it interesting, but thought that certain aspects of it were a little off(some could be due to the embargo). I've heard multiple times that the food is lacking unless you find a good casa particulare(in-home dining). And as opposed to almost every other Latin American country the produce and goods on display in the markets is sort of pitiful--and things are expensive. Compared to Mexico where most food is uniformly delicious throughout the country and very cheap.

At the same time, it's fricking ridiculous that I can't just book a flight legally from a US airport to Cuba to experience it myself. Cuba is so scary to the US apparently, that Orbitz and other travel websites have to deny the very existence of it even from flying from a secondary country. I could go the backend route if I wanted--and I know plenty who have, though the continued travel restrictions are just an instance of how some Cuban-Americans who support the ban are the worst kind of hypocrites.

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Old 02-17-2014, 02:29 PM
 
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Sure, when you have a charismatic, popular guy like Obama running you can win FL without the exile vote.

Heck, Bill Clinton didn't need to have the exile vote.....but Gore did.

If Obama lifted those sanctions today, no biggie for him, he's done with elections.
However, it could prove to be a problem for Biden or Hillary etc.

It's all moot anyway. If we assume you are absolutely correct about not needing teh exile vote, the reality is that the dems and reps are both afraid of them.

We both agree the policy should go away but the pols aren't going to risk it.
Call me nuts, but if that embargo ended today, I.think it wouldn't even be newsworthy by summer.

Just a hunch.
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Old 02-17-2014, 02:31 PM
 
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That's why a lot of tourists from other countries support the embargo.
Ironically, yes.

I'm also afraid for.the average Cuban if the embargo were to end.
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Old 02-17-2014, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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"Free" Americans aren't that free.
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Old 02-17-2014, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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We should end the Cuban embargo.

I want some good cigars
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