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And the simple answer is preparation. Obama clearly was not prepared and now he is scrambling for a response. There was never a plan B on how to deal with Russia after pulling out the missile defense system in eastern Europe. Now Obama must contend with looking out maneuvered not only to the world but also to his own people.
And the simple answer is preparation. Obama clearly was not prepared and now he is scrambling for a response. There was never a plan B on how to deal with Russia after pulling out the missile defense system in eastern Europe. Now Obama must contend with looking out maneuvered not only to the world but also to his own people.
Yes, "preparation." What preparation? We aren't going to war with Russia; Putin knows this, missile shield or no missile shield.
More crap from the chickenhawk party. I don't think you said a single thing in this message that was true.
A war with Russia can't be won. Fighting the Russians isn't like fighting the Iraqi's or anyone else.
Fighting the Russians is like fighting Americans, they will all get behind their country regardless of what political or personal ambitions each of them have. The difference is that while we'll be more concerned with the latest iPhone due for release, they'll be unwrapping cosmoline covered AKs and firing up very piece of heavy armament that will start.
There wouldn't be a nuclear war, period. The Russians know they wouldn't need nuclear weapons, the EU doesn't have any real military resources worthy of conflict, they show up only when the USA is in front.
The Germans aren't going to fight the Russians and neither are the French. The Brits might but that doesn't add too much. The rest of the EU? Are you kidding?
It would be the USA and the Russians and right now we are ill prepared to deal with the Russians. This would not be some war as we've come to know in Afghanistan, this would be a slugfest and since the 1st Iraq war we've gotten to the point where an old fashioned fist fight is beyond our capabilities to win. We have nothing there, there.
This is what happens when a country defers to the committee of the world every time it needs to do something militarily. We no longer fight to win, we fight to meet in dialogue.
Notice how the Russians don't seem to go around asking for coalitions to do anything? Does that mean they are right? Hardly but then what room have we painted ourselves into?
By the time we get a coalition together, this is all over. The Russians know Obama can't add diddly to squat without a year's worth of shuttle diplomacy. You think the Russians haven't watched how we became impotent on Iran? On Koldrea? On everyone else?
We went from walking softly and carrying a big stick to screaming at everyone while piddling around in pajamas behind the First Lady.
We now make promises we can't back up. Those are easy to make because everyone knows nothing comes of it. The Ukranians know.
How's that new world order working out?
The Crimea is not worth starting WWIII. What should be done?
1. recognize the new Ukranian government
2. lobby NATO members to enroll the Ukraine in NATO: no more invasions, as an attack on one NATO member is an attack on them all.
3. withdraw China most favored nation trade status
4. with Europe, Canada, Australia, South America, and India, institute trade sanctions against China and Russia
5. start extensive energy exploration on US federal lands and secure keystone pipeline oil to the US, rather than China. Oil is Russia's life blood- bleed them.
Russia will install a "puppet" assembly in the Crimea, who will vote to join Russia. That way, it will appear as though it was a popular secession, rather than an invasion.
Russia is doing a fine job isolating itself. Even China, one of Russia's closest trading partners, who also has a policy of non-intervention, is not pleased. The US and the rest of the world can impose sanctions. The US, who currently has an oil and gas boom, can assist Europe with their energy needs. Russia's economy will continue to tank, which it already is, and unrest from within from high unemployment and inflation due to political unrest and sanctions will do the job. Short man Putin with his Napoleon complex is making mistakes all over the place. Military action against Russia is simply not an option.
The Crimea is not worth starting WWIII. What should be done?
1. recognize the new Ukranian government
2. lobby NATO members to enroll the Ukraine in NATO: no more invasions, as an attack on one NATO member is an attack on them all.
3. withdraw China most favored nation trade status
4. with Europe, Canada, Australia, South America, and India, institute trade sanctions against China and Russia
5. start extensive energy exploration on US federal lands and secure keystone pipeline oil to the US, rather than China. Oil is Russia's life blood- bleed them.
Russia will install a "puppet" assembly in the Crimea, who will vote to join Russia. That way, it will appear as though it was a popular secession, rather than an invasion.
My goodness, the Russians know all that and did it anyway.
Do you not think the Russians figured on what we could and could not do before they did what they could do?
More coalition nonsense. Europe? Europe isn't going to do anything. South America? Are you kidding? Which country in South America, the Brazilians or maybe the Argentinians?
Enroll Ukraine in NATO? Um, in case you haven't noticed, the Russians are already in.
Withdraw China as most favored nation status. Yeah. lets ding the Chinese for what the Russians do. That should go over like a lead brick.
China, and just where do you think we will get the goods that keep our economy running since we are now a consumer and consumption based economy?
A little reality here. We can't do a thing or we'd have done it and the entire world knows it. Expect new ambitions from the DPRK and more smug smirks from the Iranians.
NATO?
Like I said, the Russians already made their move, no one did a thing.
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