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Old 03-04-2014, 06:39 PM
 
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And libs, you can't get higher wages hurting the little guy.
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Old 03-04-2014, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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CEOs don't decide their salary.. Stockholders do. If I offered you 10 million a year to sack groceries, I guarantee you would take it.
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:01 PM
 
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Let me know when a CEO can successfully flip burgers at a drive through?

The fact is they both need each other, you can't have a successful business without talented management and without employees doing menial jobs.




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I guess their CEO is 354 times more valuable.

Let me know when the burger flipper, who can hardly get the order correct, can run a multi billion dollar business with over 34k stores in 120+ countries.
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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True, but divvying up $9M among store-level employees would still be inconsequential. And that's the point.
Its a flawed point because The OP's argument isnt just to divvy up the CEO's pay. The argument is that if you can afford to pay your CEO that much, you can indeed afford to pay your employees more.

But to better put your point into scope, the CEO of McDonalds does not make 9 million dollars. He makes 9 million in base pay. He makes another 4 million in direct bonuses.

McDonalds also has a board of directors, each of which all pull in over a million dollars in base pay.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Houston
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But to better put your point into scope, the CEO of McDonalds does not make 9 million dollars. He makes 9 million in base pay. He makes another 4 million in direct bonuses.

McDonalds also has a board of directors, each of which all pull in over a million dollars in base pay.
We are still at less than a nickel an hour.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:24 PM
 
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And we do want to do that...don't we? After all the American CEO is just sooooo much smarter than the average American dumb worker - which is why they outsourced millions of good paying American jobs, to justify their multi-million dollar salaries - they just had to do it!

'McDonald's gave a $9 million dollar raise recently to their new CEO.

McDonald's can't afford paying their workers enough to climb out of poverty but just happened to find $9 million lying around to give to their CEO.

Worker's wages stagnate but for some reason CEO salaries go through the roof. No one who works full time should be poor.

yet these CEO's then proceed to lecture us about being lazy and how they can't afford raises this year, maybe next year, and the stock markets rise and the CEO salaries rise but the rest of us will just have to wait.

But the CEO never has to wait. He always gets his raise. Always.'

McDonald's can afford to triple their CEO's salary. Do you want lies with that?

Chief executives of the nation's largest companies earned an average of $12.3 million in total pay last year -- 354 times more than a typical American worker, according to the AFL-CIO.

CEOs earn 354 times more than average worker - Apr. 15, 2013

Since you care so much you must be a McDonalds shareholder; vote accordingly on the next proxy vote.

And if you don't have stock in McDonalds; what do you care?
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:32 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Let me know when a CEO can successfully flip burgers at a drive through?

The fact is they both need each other, you can't have a successful business without talented management and without employees doing menial jobs.
The difference is you can find a few hundred competent ceo's and millions and millions of people that can flip burgers.

The fact is one is much more valuable than the other, care to guess which one that is?
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Its a flawed point because The OP's argument isnt just to divvy up the CEO's pay. The argument is that if you can afford to pay your CEO that much, you can indeed afford to pay your employees more.

But to better put your point into scope, the CEO of McDonalds does not make 9 million dollars. He makes 9 million in base pay. He makes another 4 million in direct bonuses.

McDonalds also has a board of directors, each of which all pull in over a million dollars in base pay.
I guarantee you the store owners of a franchised McDonalds earn far more as a share of revenue than the CEO of the entire corporation earns. His compensation of $9 million is a blip in relation to the total entity, and he's responsible for everything.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:43 PM
 
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Since you care so much you must be a McDonalds shareholder; vote accordingly on the next proxy vote.

And if you don't have stock in McDonalds; what do you care?
So you change it from....we should pay workers more to "you dont own stock what do you care"

Yeah that makes sense.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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We are still at less than a nickel an hour.
No we arent because we already established that we arent talking about a pay raise for everyone, just the lowest paid workers.
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