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Old 03-19-2014, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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How come Putin invading Crimea was such a surprise? Why was Edward Snowden able to do what he did? Nothing on Malaysia Flight 370? Nothing on Egypt or Syria? NSA phone records on Benghazi?

I'm thinking they can tell us about Merkel's pizza delivery orders but not Putin's Crimea orders.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:07 AM
 
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Obama's own panel of intelligence officials declared the PRISM program wildly unsuccessful in meeting any of its intended goals.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:16 AM
 
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By their own admission, just about a month ago, it has never worked.

They had to testify in a court about the benefits of continuing to collect so much data and they couldnt cite one attack which was stopped because of it.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:25 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:29 AM
 
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we are never going to get the truth about the NSA and its spying programs, because if they do ever give out information about successful efforts, our enemies can then figure out how they were found out and then change their communications operations.

besides, the programs are not fully about stopping terrorists, but more about gathering information about everybody they can gather information about, and storing it for future possible use.

welcome to orwells 1984 world.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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The NSA has been spying on communications since the 1960's. The internet is just a new channel that they monitor.

RAF Menwith Hill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:47 AM
 
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The NSA has been spying on communications since the 1960's. The internet is just a new channel that they monitor.

RAF Menwith Hill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ECHELON - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
yep, and the government has been spying for much longer than that.
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