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Old 03-28-2014, 04:27 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Originally Posted by ErikBEggs View Post
Today, the Republicans are the conservatives.
Sorry, no.

When reams of liberals fled the Democrat party while Clinton was dragging it to the left through the various stains on the Oval Office carpet, many of them joined the Republican party, giving birth to the misleading term "neocon".

The Republicans shortly shed the title "Conservative" as they hiked spending, created new entitlements, and generally acted more and more like Democrats. They retained a few conservative characteristics for a while as they cut taxes and let the so-called "Assault Weapons" ban die, but they mostly became a lot more liberal than JFK ever was.

 
Old 03-28-2014, 04:30 PM
 
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lol, if you say so after all democrats are doing such a great job. That nearly 73 percent of African Americans are currently born out of wedlock, 67 percent living in single parent homes, is nothing short of disastrous.

And all this during the administration of our first black president. The level of hypocrisy is astronomical.
This is a stupid point. Jewish people are largely Democrats, and how are they doing?

If voting for Democrats has caused those statistics for black Americans, then voting for Democrats also caused the statistics for Jewish Americans.

Of course this is an incredibly stupid point that no one would say oh Jewish people have these demographic statistics based on voting for mostly Democrats.

The only reason this is done to black people is because of the racial narrative that seeks to pathologize black people.
 
Old 03-28-2014, 04:43 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
I could, and did, and will repeat as necessary as I did here:
//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...l#post34079474
Repeating something idiotic does not somehow make it smart.


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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
Aww, the Democrats were "conservative". That's sooo cute. Do you expect us to believe in the Tooth Fairy, too?



democrats are conservative... what will this guy say next... post #16 was right....
Those particular Democrats WERE conservative Southerners. Democrats now are generally not.

It takes a very special kind of an idiot to believe that ideologically liberal people voted against civil rights.

The name of the political party really means nothing. Political ideology is the constant measure over time, and the people who vote against social and other changes anywhere at any time in the world are by definition "conservatives." That was true in the past, is true today, and will be true in the future, regardless of whether those people have a D, R, or whatever else after their name.
 
Old 03-28-2014, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Yes. Democrats used to be the Conservative Party, and the Republicans were the progressives. This is all ancient history.
 
Old 03-28-2014, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Originally Posted by petch751 View Post
lol, if you say so after all democrats are doing such a great job. That nearly 73 percent of African Americans are currently born out of wedlock, 67 percent living in single parent homes, is nothing short of disastrous.

And all this during the administration of our first black president. The level of hypocrisy is astronomical.
And you expect Obama to magically cure this?
 
Old 03-28-2014, 05:48 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Originally Posted by HistorianDude View Post
Yes. Democrats used to be the Conservative Party, and the Republicans were the progressives. This is all ancient history.
Meanwhile, the people (including some in this very forum!) who spit on the grave of Republican President Abraham Lincoln for his usurpation of "states' rights" are, of course, conservative Republicans.
 
Old 03-28-2014, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by It'sAutomatic View Post
Go back in time and ask a white man in Jim Crow South if he's a liberal.
That man would say that he is a Democrat.
 
Old 03-28-2014, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by Fox Terrier View Post
The OP contends that because a greater percentage of republicans 60 YEARS AGO voted in favor of the civil rights acts, that the same would happen today, and that just is not so.
It was 50 years ago.
 
Old 03-28-2014, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by pch1013 View Post
And yet this thread is full of cons like you screaming "racist" at Democrats.
No - this thread is full of people like Harrier correcting liberal misinformation.

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What everyone is pointing out to the two of you is that those Democrats at that time who opposed it were CONSERVATIVES like you.
That is impossible.

Harrier would have supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

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Originally Posted by pch1013 View Post
Many Republicans also opposed it, and many Democrats also supported it.

Rand Paul (R - KY) thinks the Civil Rights Act was a mistake. Does that make him a racist (or a Democrat)?

Last edited by Harrier; 03-28-2014 at 06:57 PM..
 
Old 03-28-2014, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Those particular Democrats WERE conservative Southerners. .
Uh, Democrats aren't conservatives.
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