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Old 04-03-2014, 11:18 AM
 
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Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
One is too many.
Yes, it is.

But one won't change the election's outcome. And that's the point. We don't want voter fraud because we want to protect the integrity of our elections. One vote isn't a threat to the integrity of our elections.

And we also don't want one person who is legally entitled to vote, who wants to vote, who shows up at the polls to vote, to be denied that right.

We don't want voter fraud. And we don't want to deny a legal citizen their right to vote.

To achieve both things, a balanced, thoughtful approach is necessary.

The thought-out approach to deny Democrat voters their right to vote isn't balanced or thoughtful.

Give more money to county and voter registrars to do exactly what North Carolina is doing, cleaning its voter registration rolls, is a balanced, thoughtful, and appropriate response to concerns over voter/voter registration fraud.

 
Old 04-03-2014, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Link: Video: “Thousands of cases” of voter fraud in North Carolina « Hot Air

Yet another story about a problem that doesn't exist according to most Democrats. Go figure!
One of the biggest problems we have in the country is not the illiteracy of the unwashed masses, but the innumeracy. This database dump does not show what our die hard conservative propagandists claim.

1) Those 35,750 possible hits have not been shown to be double votes. They are merely matches for 1st Name, Last name and DOBs. They do not match for the last four of the SSNs, and so are almost certainly not the same person.

2) The 765 voters who do also match SSNs (which by the way might also be bad data rehgarding whether they actually double voted, given the miserable quality control of the Crosscheck database) represent less than 1 hundredth of 1% of the Registered Voters in North Carolina.

3) As an aside, Voter ID laws would not have prevented a single one of these votes.

4) What Voter ID laws would have done, however, is prevent 318,644 eligible North Carolina voters from voting in the 2012 elections... more than ten times the number of potentially ineligible voters identified by this database dump.

5) We also have no visibility into how the 765 (or 35.750) voted. They could very well have split 50-50 Dem/Rep... likely since the tiny number proves that it was not systematic voter fraud in the first place.

6) Romney beat Obama by more than 97,000 votes in NC. Pretending that all 765 voted the same way (an idiotic assumption, but hey... worst case scenario) they swayed the results by 8 tenths of one percent. To have actually made a difference, the "fraud" would have to have been systemic and 127 times larger.

7) North Carolina experiences about 290,000 migrations annually (175,000 in and 115,000 out). To find just over half of those people (156,000) still registered in their old state after one year is neither surprising nor a sign of voter fraud. It usually takes several election cycles for a voter's name to drop off the rolls.

Once again... the actual data looked at critically proves that Republican claims of "massive voter fraud" are false.
 
Old 04-03-2014, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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One is too many.
Nonsense.

If preventing that one prevents a dozen others who are eligible to vote from voting, it is by any objective measure a stupid trade.
 
Old 04-03-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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.......and voted in both states in the 2012 general election.
Already down, down, down from thousands to hundreds.

And lookee there, from Fox news, to boot!

Hundreds of cases of potential voter fraud uncovered in North Carolina | Fox News
 
Old 04-03-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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There are around 6.5 million registered voters in North Carolina and around 4.3 million of them participated in the 2012 election along with around 120 million voters from other states. Given how many common names there are it is not at all surprising that about .8% of the voters in North Carolina share a common name and birth date with one of the 120 million voters in other states.

Republicans love to make up voter fraud stories for the same reason they like poll taxes, "literacy" tests, and want to change the voting age...because they are afraid of legitimate voters voting.
 
Old 04-03-2014, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Link: Video: “Thousands of cases” of voter fraud in North Carolina « Hot Air

Yet another story about a problem that doesn't exist according to most Democrats. Go figure!
And since Republicans won big time in NC, it must have been the republicans who were guilty of voter fraud.
 
Old 04-03-2014, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
Yes, it is.

But one won't change the election's outcome. And that's the point. We don't want voter fraud because we want to protect the integrity of our elections. One vote isn't a threat to the integrity of our elections.

And we also don't want one person who is legally entitled to vote, who wants to vote, who shows up at the polls to vote, to be denied that right.

We don't want voter fraud. And we don't want to deny a legal citizen their right to vote.

To achieve both things, a balanced, thoughtful approach is necessary.

The thought-out approach to deny Democrat voters their right to vote isn't balanced or thoughtful.

Give more money to county and voter registrars to do exactly what North Carolina is doing, cleaning its voter registration rolls, is a balanced, thoughtful, and appropriate response to concerns over voter/voter registration fraud.
But we're not talking about ONE VOTE are we ?
 
Old 04-03-2014, 11:33 AM
 
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Funny, when given evidence, look at all the people who are still making excuses...
 
Old 04-03-2014, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Funny, when given evidence, look at all the people who are still making excuses...
Says they guy who wouldn't understand "evidence" if it bit him on the face.

 
Old 04-03-2014, 11:38 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Funny, when given evidence, look at all the people who are still making excuses...
These people are nothing more than corrupt, pathetic trash. They don't care about fraud, they only win via fraud and lies. Look at the people in this thread who are DEFENDING voter fraud, they're all left wing idiots to the core.

This story isn't about some alleged instance of one woman voting 3 times, this is about hard evidence that proves that thousands of people have voted more than once in recent elections and these morons couldn't care less. You can bet if it was proven that these fraudulent votes were for conservative candidates they would certainly care... but they know that's not the case.
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