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Old 04-06-2014, 06:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by helenejen View Post
Fallacy ad numero. I'll leave it to you to look up the statistics for who exactly is most often the victim of violence in Baltimore.

Hint: It's not white people.
If there are more black people than white people in a given neighborhood, statistically it means there are less white victims overall, but that doesn't mean you're individually less likely to be a victim if you are white. Here's an example, if there is a black neighborhood with 100 black people and 2 white people, with 50 black people being killed in a year, and 2 white people being killed in the same year, the black victim rate would be 96% and the white victim rate would be 4%. Except you'd ignore the fact that the white people have a 100% death rate, and blacks would have a 50% death rate. This is basic statistics.

 
Old 04-06-2014, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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If there are more black people than white people in a given neighborhood, statistically it means there are less white victims overall, but that doesn't mean you're individually less likely to be a victim if you are white. Here's an example, if there is a black neighborhood with 100 black people and 2 white people, with 50 black people being killed in a year, and 2 white people being killed in the same year, the black victim rate would be 96% and the white victim rate would be 4%. Except you'd ignore the fact that the white people have a 100% death rate, and blacks would have a 50% death rate. This is basic statistics.
Basic statistics is what gets people in trouble. The numbers in Baltimore don't even come close to being proportional. Throw out domestic violence, and it's even more disproportionate.
 
Old 04-06-2014, 06:44 PM
 
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Strange that most of the people arrested for knock out games were whites.

It the ain't the law that should concern you it's dropping the soap in prison.

WRONG, the vast majority of people who commit knock out games look are Black. This is 100 percent fact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDoQntTqJtw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TnQ4oIL9xM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n-nM_7UjXw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x4-jpfe1aI

You see the dark skin in those videos, it ain't White boys who spend too much time in the tanning salon that's for damn sure.

Last edited by Alexander Rusev; 04-06-2014 at 06:53 PM..
 
Old 04-06-2014, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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The vast majority of people who can't construct a cogent argument are Bulgarian. This is 100 percent fact.

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WRONG, the vast majority of people who commit knock out games look are Black. This is 100 percent fact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDoQntTqJtw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TnQ4oIL9xM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n-nM_7UjXw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x4-jpfe1aI

You see the dark skin in those videos, it ain't White boys who spend too much time in the tanning salon that's for damn sure.
You see the lack of logic in that post. It ain't the non-Bulgarians who spend too much time on Internet forums writing such drivel. That's for damn sure.

 
Old 04-06-2014, 07:22 PM
 
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Moving the goal post because you didn't like the answer to your question about groups of white people beating up black people in the last 40 years?



Wasn't it a predominately black neighborhood and wasn't the street a busy thoroughfare that people of lots of different races likely used? This area has a lot of hit-and-runs. There is no proof that the driver being white had anything to do with him being victimized.



No one is saying that the crime wasn't retributive. It just wasn't retributive because the driver was white.



We get it. You think black people are out to get you.



I, a white woman, live in a predominately black neighborhood in Baltimore. I have yet to be the victim of a crime, let alone a hate crime. Stop being afraid of black skin. It's pathetic!!
Oh...I am not afraid of blacks......I'll just stay out of their play ground and see they stay out of mine.

I really don't need to put my noise in a garbage can to know it stinks.
 
Old 04-06-2014, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Houston
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If there are more black people than white people in a given neighborhood, statistically it means there are less white victims overall, but that doesn't mean you're individually less likely to be a victim if you are white. Here's an example, if there is a black neighborhood with 100 black people and 2 white people, with 50 black people being killed in a year, and 2 white people being killed in the same year, the black victim rate would be 96% and the white victim rate would be 4%. Except you'd ignore the fact that the white people have a 100% death rate, and blacks would have a 50% death rate. This is basic statistics.
What you are ignoring is homicides are seldom stranger on stranger and also many homicide victims engage in behaviors, such as dealing drugs, that puts them at risk.
 
Old 04-06-2014, 07:37 PM
 
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What you are ignoring is homicides are seldom stranger on stranger and also many homicide victims engage in behaviors, such as dealing drugs, that puts them at risk.
I knew all of that, so why are those people used as the basis for why law abiding gun owners should have less gun rights?
 
Old 04-06-2014, 08:26 PM
 
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WRONG, the vast majority of people who commit knock out games look are Black. This is 100 percent fact.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDoQntTqJtw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TnQ4oIL9xM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n-nM_7UjXw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x4-jpfe1aI

You see the dark skin in those videos, it ain't White boys who spend too much time in the tanning salon that's for damn sure.
We're seriously bringing the knockout game myth into this?

I particularly like when Hannity claims that it's occurring in the US, and then immediately shows a clip from London. In any event, no matter how often y'all say it, you can't just cherry-pick clips of assaults from around the world, over years, and claim it's a "new" "trend".
 
Old 04-06-2014, 08:33 PM
 
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The vast majority of people who can't construct a cogent argument are Bulgarian. This is 100 percent fact.



You see the lack of logic in that post. It ain't the non-Bulgarians who spend too much time on Internet forums writing such drivel. That's for damn sure.

These knock out games are not happening in Idaho and Utah. They are happening in places that have a large Negro population.
 
Old 04-06-2014, 08:41 PM
 
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Default Call what for what it is: a Hate Crime

A fund has been set up for Steve Utash which his family will surely need for medical expenses and such.

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Had the races been reversed, every person in the country would've heard about it. The news media, Hollywood, and racists like Sharpton would've made damn sure of it.
I was shocked when I turned on NBC News tonight and actually saw their doing a story on Utash's beating .... until the segment ended without them once mentioning race being a factor at all. This is the same network that kept calling Zimmerman white during the whole Trayvon thing. Mainstream media, so predictable.

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Originally Posted by d from birmingham View Post
Strange that most of the people arrested for knock out games were whites.
Do you have proof of this?

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Originally Posted by detwahDJ View Post
You have no idea if it was or was not racial - or just a crime of opportunity.
I think it was probably a combination of both.
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You assume it was racial because you need it for your conservative self-verification.
It's an educated assumption using my own eyes and knowing Detroit's history of race relations— dozens of black guys senselessly beating up a white guy who accidentally hit a black child. Utash's mistake was to stop and get out of his car to help the poor child. Utash's mistake was assuming that people in Detroit are decent and not a bunch of animals, and now his life hangs in the balance for making that error in judgment.


Why Are So Many People Afraid To Call The Beating In Detroit A Hate Crime?

Outrage over driver attack unites people against hate
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