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How true, how true. Fascism is alive and well in the land of the "free". If someone has ever made an un-PC statement or supported a currently verboten cause, you may be fired, ostracized or financially ruined by the PC police. Scary times.
Consider carefully what political cause you donate to, what you film or write on any social media site, Folks. Those words will follow you forever....and could ruin you. Even 20 years from now. Who knows what will be deemed "unacceptable speech" in the future.
Um, thanks for proving my point. Whatever it is that you posted in something only faintly resembling English … you're completely allowed to think it, even though somewhere today, a gay couple is getting married. Isn't it awesome how that works?
It's funny because I actually agree that gay people should be able to marry. Nobody's sexuality bothers me in the slightest. But your condescending attitude makes feel about you the same way that I feel about how neo-Nazis deserve free speech. Tip for you: you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. You give your cause a bad name when you act with such hostility and arrogance and play right into your opponents' hands.
No, they are not. They do not carry the same benefits and protections under the law that marriage does.
You need to come up with a new excuse for bigotry, that one is completely false.
You are also avoiding the question.
The civil unions I proposed are equal (and I think you knew that) so you'll have to come up with another reason to oppose them.
So what do you say?
Civil unions for homosexuals who want to marry their own sex that will be exactly equal in every way to the marriages heterosexuals have and you can have them today without one peep from anyone on the right provided these new civil unions are not called marriage.
My plan was to not **** with existing marriage laws in the first place,
In other words, your preference was to leave the persecution of homosexuals intact. Yes, I assume most people gathered that.
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but since that is something homosexuals won't accept, we'll have to find an honest alternative.
Then why would you have posted such ridiculously deceptive claptrap as you posted, rife with the impracticable suggestion to change thousand upon thousands of laws, just to pander to your semantic persnicketiness.
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Calling me a bigot is repudiation?
No one called you a bigot. Rather, the repudiation I referred to was the thorough and comprehensive repudiation of the perspective you expressed as bigoted.
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Yeah, I saw those excuse laden word salads you posted while you were looking for the door.
In other words, you realized that you couldn't come up with a legitimate defense to the thorough and comprehensive repudiation I posted, so you decided to try to spew this smokescreen insinuating that it didn't do what it actually did, i.e., discredit what you advocated.
Not engaging in homosexual behavior yourself is not bigotry.
Telling other grown adults what to do because you personally don't like it-- That's bigotry. Especially when it's based on an attribute over which they have no control.
By "attribute over which they have no control", do you mean disgust with unusual sexual practices like homosexuality?
Why do homophobes always have mental images of gay sex floating around their minds?
Do you envision wild orgies when you walk through the mall? Or are you fixated on a single thing that makes someone different? Because that would be bigotry.
It's amusing that you'd bring up delusion, given that government has been making laws about marriage since before there was a United States. Your delusion to the contrary blinds you to the reality. If you cannot base your comments on the reality around you, please understand that your comments are rendered worthless.
Don't be so obtuse, you know exactly what I meant.
Yes, government has been making laws about marrige and a litany of other things that it has no business legislating since the advent of organized government.
But that does not make it right.
I reiterate:
It is none of your business who I marry.
It is none of my business who you marry.
It is none of the governments business who marries who or why or what any of us choose to do in our bedrooms.
Don't be so obtuse, you know exactly what I meant.
I know what you meant. The question is whether you do, and whether you have the integrity necessary to admit it, plainly and without equivocation.
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Yes, government has been making laws about marrige and a litany of other things that it has no business legislating since the advent of organized government.
A comment which is nothing but your own, personal, opinion, a state that wouldn't be notable except that it is shared by a such a very small minority. While the purpose of a democratic republic is to protect minorities from tyranny of the majority, your perspective in this regard is so much a fringe perspective, and the manner by which the vast majority disagree with you causes you so little personal encumbrance, its impact being limited almost exclusively to the comparatively petty matter of finance and commerce, rather than that of (the true meaning of) liberty and of justice.
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But that does not make it right.
Your saying so doesn't make it wrong. More over, your saying so doesn't mean it should be changed to suit you.
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I reiterate:
Reiterating what is not true (i.e., that government doesn't or shouldn't have a role in laws regarding marriage) doesn't make it true.
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