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Mexicans have it easy compared to other groups. The bosses want to hire them, because they work cheap and can't complain and they get paid off the books so there is no tax. The government makes it law for us to love them - we have to teach in their language, print everything in their language, have half the tv channels in their language, observe their holidays and on and on. Regardless of what they do in this country, it is very hard to kick them out. If a state passes a law that tries to enforce the immigration laws of the country, the people of that state are labeled racists and boycotts are started. No other immigrant group got this kid gloves treatment.
Sounds like you think we live as a class society in the US. If a second generation Chinese-American and second generation Mexican-American both go to the same k-12 school system, you think that one student is just expected to do better then the other based on race? So what explain the high school drop out rate disparity?
Success at school has more to do with parental involvement and family life it does with curriculum or a good teacher. Many blacks are in a cycle of poverty without the parenting skills or time to get their kids out of it. I lived in a city with big Italian and Portuguese (Azores) communities. The Italians did better as than the Portuguese as the latter's immigrant parents were more illiterate & working 2 low wage jobs to give attention and guidance their kids.
The people who created this study are not challenging our definition of success but sending all characteristics of a fair comparative analysis out the window.
They're actually demeaning both minorities and stirring the class envy pot.
2nd gen Chinese/Am: Oh you've gone on to venerable achievements but since you've had such a head start it's kind of expected anyway, so we're not that impressed...
2nd gen Mexicans/Am: Ooooooh, 7 out of 8 of you graduated high school (which must have been academically grueling, being born here and all) and of those 4 of 5 of you went directly into the work force (at entry level and worked your way up)? What an incredible achievement!!! (subtext - for you people) You should be lauded/ applauded and celebrated.
A better comparison would have been 2nd gen culturally isolated (Chinatown vs. Hispanic Neighborhood) vs respective minorities integrated and raised in middle class neighborhoods.
My wife and her three sisters are all second generation Chinese Americans. There father was a bartender. Mother was a hotel housekeeper. Their parents were level zero participants in their children school and social activities. Those kids were fed and clothed until they we're 11 or 12, old enough to work in the uncle's restaurant. From there they purchased their own clothes and niceties, worked additional jobs, saved money, took out loans for college and the end result?:
A doctor, an investment analyst, a CPA and a bat s&*% crazy stay at home mom (that in addition to honorary Phd's. in irrational volatility, manipulation, and meddling had also earned a BA in finance). If you ask any one of them the reason they persisted and achieved, it was because they didn't want to be like their parents.
Does that sound like starting at third base to you?
Now granted their father worked hard enough to move from an apartment in Chinatown to the suburbs so that his kids could experience and mingle with those who had more than they did. It's quite possible that if they stayed in a culturally isolated environment any one of them could've have married someone who worked for peanuts in a dry cleaners/ restaurant/ as a bike messenger only to be beaten regularly.
Last edited by AKA Bubbleup; 05-09-2014 at 02:08 PM..
Reason: grm
The population of American has doubled in the last fifty years, we don't need any more immigrants in most cases. We are busting at the seams now. There are too many poor people in America, we don't need to import anymore. So it is a moot discussion.
Who’s more successful: The child of Chinese immigrants who is now a prominent attorney, or a second-generation Mexican who completed high school and now holds a stable, blue collar job?
The answer depends on how you define success.
In fact, according to a study by University of California, Irvine, contrary to stereotypes, Mexican-Americans are the most successful second-generation group in the country. The reason is simple: The study considered not just where people finished, but from where they started.
Success is relative and the definition of it varies depending on who you ask.
[at the end of the day it is up to the individual]
Only if successful means sky high illegitimacy rates, the highest very young teen pregnancy rates, the highest drop out rates for both high school and middle school.
Mexico's middle class is growing because anyone who is educated and doesn't start having babies at age 16 can do well enough there. What is coming over the border is their most impoverished and least educated.
Success at school has more to do with parental involvement and family life it does with curriculum or a good teacher. Many blacks are in a cycle of poverty without the parenting skills or time to get their kids out of it. I lived in a city with big Italian and Portuguese (Azores) communities. The Italians did better as than the Portuguese as the latter's immigrant parents were more illiterate & working 2 low wage jobs to give attention and guidance their kids.
Blacks have a much higher graduation rate than do Mexicans.
"Why Mexicans are the Most Successful Immigrants in America?"
I was hoping for some type of 'success' definition or statistical evidence that the stated proposition was accurate... but, found neither.
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