Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 05-15-2014, 10:38 AM
 
1,070 posts, read 739,962 times
Reputation: 144

Advertisements

No. More democrats voted against than for the war. That's not a bi-partisan effort.

Fortunately I am old enough to remember it and it was never a bi-partisan effort: republicans pushed for war in Iraq and some democrats simply tagged alone, scared to be as branded cowards and "unpatriotic" by republican propaganda machine. We all remember proud " Mission Accomplished" event and many others. You'll have to wait with rewriting history at least another 50 years. Lol





Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzarama View Post
29 of 50 D Senators voted YES. 82 of 201 D House members voted YES. That's bipartisan. The YES votes came from a passel of admired D's who still are leaders of the party, Clinton, Kerry, Biden, and Reid among them. You can run, but you can't hide.

Last edited by Rapaport; 05-15-2014 at 11:56 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-15-2014, 10:42 AM
 
8,893 posts, read 5,373,289 times
Reputation: 5697
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapaport View Post
Is that your biggest problem with Hillary? Lol
Not at all. But I do have problems with people who go on and on about how awful the Iraq war was yet will still support a candidate who voted for it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-15-2014, 10:43 AM
 
8,893 posts, read 5,373,289 times
Reputation: 5697
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapaport View Post
No. More democrats voted against than for the war. That's not a bi-partisan effort.
The discussion for this thread is how Hillary Clinton voted.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-15-2014, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Texas
14,975 posts, read 16,464,090 times
Reputation: 4586
Quote:
Originally Posted by Minethatbird View Post
The discussion for this thread is how Hillary Clinton voted.
Which they don't give a d**n about.

Such hypocrites.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-15-2014, 10:45 AM
 
56,988 posts, read 35,206,841 times
Reputation: 18824
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rggr View Post
Not bragging etc. It was a tongue in cheek response to your post about who's laughing now - just saying I don't think Saddam is.
Fair enough.

That said, I don't see his death as being of any consequence. He might not be laughing, but neither are you. I'm not laughing either.

In truth, we're the laughingstock now, and I don't like my country being laughed at for being so stupid and gullible.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-15-2014, 10:47 AM
 
11,186 posts, read 6,508,677 times
Reputation: 4622
Quote:
Originally Posted by gmagoo View Post
It wasn`t a declaration of war. How many times do you need to have that explained to you?
No kidding; this country doesn't declare war any more, unless it's against something like terrorism, drugs, obesity.

All those D party leaders voted to give Bush authority to 'use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq.' The D's voted to fund the war.

Sure, Bush as the final decision-maker is mainly responsible, but giving Clinton, Kerry, Reid, Biden, etc. a pass is the definition of party hack.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-15-2014, 10:50 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
12,287 posts, read 9,824,055 times
Reputation: 6509
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapaport View Post
No. More democrats voted against than for the war. That's not a bi-partisan effort.

Fortunately I am old enough to remember it and it was never a bi-partisan effort: republicans pushed for war in Iraq and some democrats simply tagged alone, scared to be branded cowards and unpatriotic by republican propaganda machine. We all remember proud " Mission Accomplished" event and many others. You have to wait with rewriting history at least another 50 years. Lol
You really need to look at how bipartisan is used in this country. When ever you get a yes from both parties for something, even if it is just 1 member it is described as receiving bipartisan support.

You might have a different definition, but it is wrong.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-15-2014, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
18,782 posts, read 17,364,082 times
Reputation: 7990
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun View Post
All one had to do was read the paper. Invading soldiers didn't even bother with these alleged weapons depots. Invading soldiers went right for the oil ministry building. Some people might believe they did so because the US had no interest in Iraq's resources, but I can't see why.

Also, Cheney fed information to the New York times, then pretended when it was printed that this information constituted independent verification of his claims.

There are no good words to describe the Bush Administration's actions, except maybe now "over" can be used.

Invading Marines were ordered to go 'logistic light,' which meant one funnel for every four Marines to ensure that they did not spill any precious water while filling their canteens. No cots, and no sleeping bags. But they did not dare go in without their MOPP suits to protect against chem-bio attack (i.e. WMD).
Cobra II: The Inside Story of the Invasion And Occupation of Iraq - Michael R. Gordon, Bernard E. Trainor - Google Books

Getting your info from the paper--that's your first problem. Hallucinating is your second.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-15-2014, 10:52 AM
 
1,070 posts, read 739,962 times
Reputation: 144
There can be no discussion as we all know how she voted. You failed to prove that her vote disqualifies her as a presidential candidate.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Minethatbird View Post
The discussion for this thread is how Hillary Clinton voted.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-15-2014, 10:53 AM
 
8,893 posts, read 5,373,289 times
Reputation: 5697
Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzarama View Post
Iraq was a bipartisan war.

I give left-wing Truth-Out credit for admitting D's share the blame for the war:
But we should only hold Republicans responsible when we go to the voting booths.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:17 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top