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Ah yes, education for the rich only, so you want a higher percentage of poor Americans having a higher birthrate due to low education? That sounds like a horrible idea, where in the world did you get your education from?
Poor Americans don't have a higher birth rate due to "low education". They have a high birth rate due to miseducation which is often intentional due to PC madness or the perpetuation of a permanent underclass.
Sorry, but I grew up in ghetto poverty. I knew having kids at age 17 was not a good option for me. I knew it wasn't a good option for a rich 17-year-old kid either but they'd have an easier time than me if it did happen.
We need to be honest with kids regardless of economic class: you need to have an education, decent living, good physical AND mental health, and a solid understanding of finances.
At that point, if you find a partner who has these same qualities and is willing to commit to you and a family then you can start to think about having a child. For 99% of you this won't even be possible til around age 24 at the earliest.
Another idea to fix education that is not supported by the facts. America's issues with education have to do with the fact that America's demographics are rapidly changing. The education and achievement gaps are very real and well studied phenomenons that have been shown to be intractable. There is no school district in this nation where the gaps do not exist. People from both the left and right need to come to grips with this reality.
Another idea to fix education that is not supported by the facts. America's issues with education have to do with the fact that America's demographics are rapidly changing. The education and achievement gaps are very real and well studied phenomenons that have been shown to be intractable. There is no school district in this nation where the gaps do not exist. People from both the left and right need to come to grips with this reality.
People on the right have already come to grips with that fact. It is people on the left whose fantasy worldview prevents them from seeing outside their little box of racism and wealthy greed as the source for any societal problems. They blame those two things for just about everything wrong with anything. Crime, drug use, illegitimate birth rates, global warming, terrorism, education, income gaps, whatever. You name it, and they will link it to racism and Republican greed. That's the only way they can continue their failed policies year after year without having to acknowledge the failures of those policies. They need a scapegoat so they don't have to face the facts that their cherished philosophy of taxing the rich and giving to the poor, no matter how well intentioned, simply does not work.
Who said for the rich only? Sorry you cant imagine any alternatives to government run. Where did you get yours?
Where does the poor get the money to send a child to school? Ah yes, homeschooling, where a child can be educated by someone who lacks education, that is your solution.
Poor Americans don't have a higher birth rate due to "low education". They have a high birth rate due to miseducation which is often intentional due to PC madness or the perpetuation of a permanent underclass.
Sorry, but I grew up in ghetto poverty. I knew having kids at age 17 was not a good option for me. I knew it wasn't a good option for a rich 17-year-old kid either but they'd have an easier time than me if it did happen.
We need to be honest with kids regardless of economic class: you need to have an education, decent living, good physical AND mental health, and a solid understanding of finances.
At that point, if you find a partner who has these same qualities and is willing to commit to you and a family then you can start to think about having a child. For 99% of you this won't even be possible til around age 24 at the earliest.
Until that time either keep it in your pants
and/or
thoroughly educate yourself on sex from A to Z.
That is the same definition for different words, we are talking about the same thing.
If you actually care about education in America, a teacher needs to teach a student more than just a year. Students should be with the same teacher for several years so that the teachers can best monitor a student's progression.
this is the ideal method, however it is not practical these days since we no longer have small communities with one or two room school houses. todays schools are essentially education factories.
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Ah yes, education for the rich only, so you want a higher percentage of poor Americans having a higher birthrate due to low education? That sounds like a horrible idea, where in the world did you get your education from?
if we cut property taxes, and institute a small tuition fee for primary education, schools will be required to become more efficient in the way they use their money. for those families that are in fact too poor to pay their childrens way through school, funding can be arraigned so that everyone gets a proper primary education through grade twelve. after that they can be trying to get scholarships or grants for higher education.
the other thing we need to do is raise the educational standards. stop with the "thats ok johnny at least you are trying" crap, and tell little johnny that he needs to apply himself to his school work.
this is the ideal method, however it is not practical these days since we no longer have small communities with one or two room school houses. todays schools are essentially education factories.
if we cut property taxes, and institute a small tuition fee for primary education, schools will be required to become more efficient in the way they use their money. for those families that are in fact too poor to pay their childrens way through school, funding can be arraigned so that everyone gets a proper primary education through grade twelve. after that they can be trying to get scholarships or grants for higher education.
the other thing we need to do is raise the educational standards. stop with the "thats ok johnny at least you are trying" crap, and tell little johnny that he needs to apply himself to his school work.
You are thinking of it wrong, I am saying having one teacher teach 20 some kids for several grades at a time rather than have several teachers teach individual grades to students. That way one teacher would see the progression of their group of students to better monitor education growth.
You are thinking of it wrong, I am saying having one teacher teach 20 some kids for several grades at a time rather than have several teachers teach individual grades to students. That way one teacher would see the progression of their group of students to better monitor education growth.
no, i understand how you are suggesting it be done. but you have issues with that, namely teacher certification for one. teachers would have to be certified for several grades instead of just a few. and how far would you go with one teacher teaching their students? through 7th grade? through high school? usually starting in seventh grade students get more intense education in each subject, so you also need teachers that are certified in a variety of subjects as well. and once one gets into high school, classes get even more intense for each subject as they are supposedly preparing students for college.
Another idea to fix education that is not supported by the facts. America's issues with education have to do with the fact that America's demographics are rapidly changing. The education and achievement gaps are very real and well studied phenomenons that have been shown to be intractable. There is no school district in this nation where the gaps do not exist. People from both the left and right need to come to grips with this reality.
Each state produces reports on their state testing with demographic breakdown.
And it's always the same pattern.
Scores highest to lowest: Asians-Whites-Hispanic-Blacks
Hispanic scores are higher than those of Blacks but not by much.
There is a bigger gap though between scores of Whites and Hispanics.
As Hispanics increase the scores will reflect that.
Asians represent a small minority in these reports. Their scores are well into the 90% and above range of passing.
You are thinking of it wrong, I am saying having one teacher teach 20 some kids for several grades at a time rather than have several teachers teach individual grades to students. That way one teacher would see the progression of their group of students to better monitor education growth.
You'd have to change teacher education to accomplish that.
Certs are granted based on specific levels and specific content.
Once in middle school teachers are content specific.
They have to be since the content at these levels is much more complex than in K-5.
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