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It's a very complicated equation. Especially for the upper middle class (those making between $100-300k a year). I am not talking wealth here. Purely yearly income. Top 1% "wealth" is at 8 million.
Many high tax states like New Jersey Maryland etc. these people will get hit with the AMT which basically kills those state income tax deduction as well as kills their property tax deduction.
Factor in housing as well. A nice "middle class" 2500-3000 square foot 1980s-1990s home. I ain't even talking about new McMansions will run u at least $500-600k in the Wash DC proper metro are.
You can get newer home in say the Dallas suburbs for around $350-400k.
In the end. Just remember no one moves up north to "retire" in New Jersey New York.
Then, I have to count up a dozen miscellaneous "fees" that "low-tax" states use to score political capital because "tax" is a curse word.
Like what? Toll roads? LOL
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Finally, I have to re-calculate my grocery bill, because less progressive states tend to tax food at the grocery stores.
Now that's really funny and exposes your ignorance. TX has NO sales tax on food. Neither does FL. So I guess by your measure FL and TX are "more progressive states".
I just did a general search using their calculator. It says I would save over $1,000 a year moving from California to Texas.
However, I'm not sure if it factored in the cost of the heavy medication I'll need after trading in palm trees, mountains, the ocean, and perfect weather for a barren, flat, humid-as-hell cesspool.
So you prefer the CA cesspool? That's fine. Stay there.
BTW, just to help you with your failure in geography. TX has about 450 miles of ocean front.......
Ok. I shouldn't have say no one moves up north to retire. But the migration for the general population has been away from the rust belt and north east towards the southeast and parts of the southwest.
I was equating AL and FL as crummy low tax states and CA and MA as good high tax states. Nothing to do with food.
But that's not what you posted. Here is your post;
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And how much money could I save if I ate McDonalds (Alabama, Florida) every night instead of good healthy food (California, Massachusetts)? Sorry, quality of life is worth way more to me than the lowest price tag.
Every state has good healthy food and every state has McDonalds.
I hope you didn't spend the last 30 years of your life "wishing" California's changes would all of a sudden revert back to how you want to live.
That's all I ask.
No, just the last six. The last little one leaves the nest next year. One year, one week to go. I leave it to younger, more hopeful people like yourself to revive the California dream.
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