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Old 05-28-2014, 07:59 AM
 
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It's a very complicated equation. Especially for the upper middle class (those making between $100-300k a year). I am not talking wealth here. Purely yearly income. Top 1% "wealth" is at 8 million.

Many high tax states like New Jersey Maryland etc. these people will get hit with the AMT which basically kills those state income tax deduction as well as kills their property tax deduction.

Factor in housing as well. A nice "middle class" 2500-3000 square foot 1980s-1990s home. I ain't even talking about new McMansions will run u at least $500-600k in the Wash DC proper metro are.

You can get newer home in say the Dallas suburbs for around $350-400k.

In the end. Just remember no one moves up north to "retire" in New Jersey New York.
They sure do in Michigan.......many to the UP.
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Old 05-28-2014, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Then, I have to count up a dozen miscellaneous "fees" that "low-tax" states use to score political capital because "tax" is a curse word.
Like what? Toll roads? LOL

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Finally, I have to re-calculate my grocery bill, because less progressive states tend to tax food at the grocery stores.
Now that's really funny and exposes your ignorance. TX has NO sales tax on food. Neither does FL. So I guess by your measure FL and TX are "more progressive states".
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Old 05-28-2014, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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Alabama and FL have very healthy food. And I would bet that CA has more McDonalds than AL and FL combined.

And with the money you save by moving, you could AFFORD to buy fresh healthy food.

Nice deflection but false data.
I was equating AL and FL as crummy low tax states and CA and MA as good high tax states. Nothing to do with food.
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Old 05-28-2014, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I know from doing my homework that I will save at least $1,000.00 a year in taxes moving from California to Montana. Not to mention all the ###! fees.
If it works for you, fine.

I hope you didn't spend the last 30 years of your life "wishing" California's changes would all of a sudden revert back to how you want to live.

That's all I ask.
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Old 05-28-2014, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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I just did a general search using their calculator. It says I would save over $1,000 a year moving from California to Texas.

However, I'm not sure if it factored in the cost of the heavy medication I'll need after trading in palm trees, mountains, the ocean, and perfect weather for a barren, flat, humid-as-hell cesspool.
So you prefer the CA cesspool? That's fine. Stay there.

BTW, just to help you with your failure in geography. TX has about 450 miles of ocean front.......
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Old 05-28-2014, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Plus Alabama is probably still using Confedeate money.

Just saying...
But at least they treat you like an adult and allow you to buy a large soft drink and they don't stop and search you because you are suspicious.

Just saying....
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Old 05-28-2014, 08:07 AM
 
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They sure do in Michigan.......many to the UP.
Ok. I shouldn't have say no one moves up north to retire. But the migration for the general population has been away from the rust belt and north east towards the southeast and parts of the southwest.
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Old 05-28-2014, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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I was equating AL and FL as crummy low tax states and CA and MA as good high tax states. Nothing to do with food.
But that's not what you posted. Here is your post;
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And how much money could I save if I ate McDonalds (Alabama, Florida) every night instead of good healthy food (California, Massachusetts)? Sorry, quality of life is worth way more to me than the lowest price tag.
Every state has good healthy food and every state has McDonalds.
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Old 05-28-2014, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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So you prefer the CA cesspool? That's fine. Stay there.

BTW, just to help you with your failure in geography. TX has about 450 miles of ocean front.......
Uh, no.

The Gulf of Mexico is a soupy puddle compared to the beautiful serene Pacific.

Pacific means "peaceful" ya know?
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Old 05-28-2014, 08:10 AM
 
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If it works for you, fine.

I hope you didn't spend the last 30 years of your life "wishing" California's changes would all of a sudden revert back to how you want to live.

That's all I ask.
No, just the last six. The last little one leaves the nest next year. One year, one week to go. I leave it to younger, more hopeful people like yourself to revive the California dream.
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