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Originally Posted by KUchief25
Perhaps some of you should watch Waterworld with Costner to see where we are heading.............lol
don't worry 4 to 6 inches of sea level rise in the next hundred years is not going to submerge that much land.. we will be fossils by time the water world scenario happens.. i'm more worried about the soylent green effect that's going to happen in the not so distant future...
Lets assume everything the Greenies say about Global Warming is true and soon all our cities will be flooded as the Ice Caps melt due to rising CO2 levels. In that case, shouldn’t Environmentalists be backing these three proposals:
1) Why not build levees around our costal cities? Us folks inland will donate the dirt and broken concrete from our construction projects. The Government only has to pay to have railroads (the cheapest form of land transport) haul it to costal cities. And then you guys dump it out wherever you think best until your cities are protected by levees 300 feet high and a thousand feet wide. You can cover them with grass and trees and on the ocean side have a nice sandy beach and you can line the top with a bunch of windmills.
2) Why not plant a tree that will take in carbon dioxide in the corner of every other parking stall? Nobody parks within a foot of the corner of the parking stall anyway. In the winter when the parking lot is covered with snow you’ll still be able to see where the parking stalls are at. In the summer you’ll be able to park your car in the shade and instead of a blazing hot trek across an oven-hot parking lot you can enjoy a nice stroll in the shade watching squirrels scamper and listening to the birds singing in the trees and you wash your car every week anyway.
3) Why not plant vines in planters outside the window of every skyscraper? These will restore the green environment lost to the city and the vines will take in CO2 from all the cars on the street and so stop air pollution at it’s source.
So now we have "corrected" surface temperatures from 100 years ago and are "correcting" ocean data that doesn't fit the new warming the "corrected" land temperatures created.
Surface temperatures are not important in assessing the heat energy of our oceans because most of the ocean water is not surface water but water below the surfaces which are much colder and are for now a heat sink for greenhouse trapped heat energy. Unfortunately it is not a boundless heat sink (with an infinite heat capacity) . There is vertical mixing when cold ocean waters mix with warmer ones like they do off the coast of Peru, Alaska and New Foundland where fishing is very good. Now there may be for a short time accelerated mixing driven by the temperature difference between the surface layer and the Oceanic depths. So surface Ocean tempertures might actually cool. but when the ocean depths warm up a little this may stop and if anything mixing of colder and warmer waters may slow or cease. When this happens the ability of the oceans to buffer out increased greenhouse warming will diminish. When this happens look out. Similar thinking and physics applies to the system of horizontal ocean currents both in the surface layer but the counter flows that occur in the ocean depths. Climates and weather may be made more unstable and fluctuations between hot and cold or wet and dry spells might increase as well as the violence of weather.
Surface temperatures are not important in assessing the heat energy of our oceans because most of the ocean water is not surface water but water below the surfaces which are much colder and are for now a heat sink for greenhouse trapped heat energy. Unfortunately it is not a boundless heat sink (with an infinite heat capacity) . There is vertical mixing when cold ocean waters mix with warmer ones like they do off the coast of Peru, Alaska and New Foundland where fishing is very good. Now there may be for a short time accelerated mixing driven by the temperature difference between the surface layer and the Oceanic depths. So surface Ocean tempertures might actually cool. but when the ocean depths warm up a little this may stop and if anything mixing of colder and warmer waters may slow or cease. When this happens the ability of the oceans to buffer out increased greenhouse warming will diminish. When this happens look out. Similar thinking and physics applies to the system of horizontal ocean currents both in the surface layer but the counter flows that occur in the ocean depths. Climates and weather may be made more unstable and fluctuations between hot and cold or wet and dry spells might increase as well as the violence of weather.
Why aren't global warmers measuring sub surface temps? I guess it doesn't fit into their little tax plan.
More of "when this happens" nonsense as if you know it will happen. You know nothing like all the rest. Just conjecture and doom and gloom scenarios. Go watch The Day After Tomorrow and enjoy it is what you want so you can scream "I was right". Even though the earth freezes. LOL
don't worry 4 to 6 inches of sea level rise in the next hundred years is not going to submerge that much land.. we will be fossils by time the water world scenario happens.. i'm more worried about the soylent green effect that's going to happen in the not so distant future...
This is now wrong. Better estimates now put sea level rise by 2100 at between 5 and 8 meters (15-24 feet) . This is because it is now established (paper published in Science magazine the flagship journal of the USA's top academic science journal of record published by the AAAS) that the West Anarctic ice sheet is collapsing and its collase is inevitable and may be rapid but with certainty sometime before the end of the 21st Century. So mankind and a fair number of us alive today might get a ring side seat for a significant geophysical event which will sure to be covered by Jim Cantore or his sucessors at the Weather Channel. The sea level rise from this one climate event could happen on the scale of several years. Now there will be also be a rise due to the accelerated melting of the smaller Greenland ice sheet which will give 2-3 meter sea level rise to added to the rise from the collapsing West Antiarctic ice sheet. So one might have to cope with sea level rises of 30 feet) . Thus is enough to ensure that the sea would claim areas representing a lot of American history for Yorktown, Colonial Williamsburg, Jamestown, and Fort Monroe would go beneath the waves.At least for now. The East Antarctic ice sheet is holding on but if it goes it alone will raise sea levels 40 meters or 120 feet. You can get USGS contour maps of Coastal regions to see who far the Atlantic, Gulf or Pacific could reach into the United States when such melting events take place. Making such a map is a very good exercise for a high school earth science class.
Who is estimating this nonsense? I've seen many a doom and gloom scenario pass with nothing. I'm more worried about yellowstone blowing then your dreaded sea level rise. If your doom and gloom scenario ever happens you can either sit there and drown or do what Sam Kennison said get ya some Uhauls and MOVE. Simple stuff.
Why aren't global warmers measuring sub surface temps? I guess it doesn't fit into their little tax plan.
More of "when this happens" nonsense as if you know it will happen. You know nothing like all the rest. Just conjecture and doom and gloom scenarios. Go watch The Day After Tomorrow and enjoy it is what you want so you can scream "I was right". Even though the earth freezes. LOL
How butt ignorant are you not to know that every 24 hours, complete maps of ocean surface temperatures are being obtained by spacecraft operated by NASA, NOAA and the United States Department of Defense for the United States of America, by ESA European Space Agency for the European Union, CNRS (French Space Agency) for France and the and the British Metoelogical Survey and the Royal Navy for the British, Japan 's space agency JAXA also makes such global maps for Japan. Russia, China and India have the technology to do this as well and are probably doing this for the Eastern hemisphere at least.We don't have to conjecture about what we are measuring every single day and putting into supercomputers for analysis every day. Do you know what a massively parallel supercomputer is and what is one of its most important applications is all about?
Why aren't global warmers measuring sub surface temps? I guess it doesn't fit into their little tax plan.
More of "when this happens" nonsense as if you know it will happen. You know nothing like all the rest. Just conjecture and doom and gloom scenarios. Go watch The Day After Tomorrow and enjoy it is what you want so you can scream "I was right". Even though the earth freezes. LOL
If you had the slightest clue about what you are talking about you would know that the temperature of the deep ocean IS being measured...
don't worry 4 to 6 inches of sea level rise in the next hundred years is not going to submerge that much land.. we will be fossils by time the water world scenario happens.. i'm more worried about the soylent green effect that's going to happen in the not so distant future...
Would a loss of 15% of the territory of the United States with about 30% of its wealth in real estate worry you ? I think you will find it worrys America's Insurace and Re-insurance industry or Re and LLoyds of London the world largerst Re (the Re that insures our Res)
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we will be fossils by time the water world scenario happens..
i'm more worried about the soylent green effect that's going to happen in the not so distant future...
