The Release of Bowe Bergdahl (solutions, March, financial, implant)

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by pknopp

We don't imprison people without a trial based upon allegations.

Correction: We don't imprison U.S. citizens without a trial based upon allegations. The Guantanamo detainees aren't U.S. citizens.

[jazzarama]

Originally Posted by Hoonose

Of course there are still a whole host of unknowns from our civilian perspective, but I read that the prisoners were already set to be released in December.

I admit to not knowing how an undeclared war can be declared over when we'll have troops in Afghan for 2 years after the war is declared over, but...

releasing the 5 now instead of December means they have 6 more months to return to the fight while U.S. troops are there.

[Hyperthetic]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Correction: We don't imprison U.S. citizens without a trial based upon allegations. The Guantanamo detainees aren't U.S. citizens.

Neither is over 90% of the world population.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Correction: We don't imprison U.S. citizens without a trial based upon allegations. The Guantanamo detainees aren't U.S. citizens.

That is not who we are. In the past you have even alluded that the U.N. can't always be trusted.

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

The pro-war faction being UNSCOM and the Clinton Admin. Are you saying we can never trust the UN or Democrats?

Did we ever find the WMD that produced Bush's economy wrecking 6 trillion dollar wars?

I have far more respect for those I always disagree with if those disagreements are principled disagreements. Yours are not.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by Hyperthetic

Neither is over 90% of the world population.

Actually, it's more like 95%. Good thing 95% of the world population isn't being detained in Guantanamo, then.

[Hyperthetic]

Look, those five guys; if we've gotten them addicted to Chicken McNuggets and pizza, they'll be eating out of our hand for a very long time.

Those kinds of addictions are much more primary than neurohormone addictions.

[Hyperthetic]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Good thing 90% of the world population isn't being detained in Guantanamo, then.

Well, we can still swoop down and grab anyone, like we did with most of the detainees.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by pknopp

That is not who we are. In the past you have even alluded that the U.N. can't always be trusted.

In abstract matters, yes. Innocent dead people are an entirely different matter. There's physical proof of the atrocities committed by Guantanamo detainees.

[Hyperthetic]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

In abstract matters, yes. Innocent dead people are an entirely different matter. There's physical proof of the atrocities committed by Guantanamo detainees.

Well, bring that "physical proof" into a courtroom where I can examine it more closely.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

In abstract matters, yes. Innocent dead people are an entirely different matter. There's physical proof of the atrocities committed by Guantanamo detainees.

A generalization that means nothing. If there is proof a trial is simply just a formality but one that allows us to not be them.

Even Saddam got a trial.